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      07-26-2011, 04:44 PM   #52
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Originally Posted by bobloblaw View Post
I don't even know where to start. Cals in vs cals out. Just because fat people drink diet soda doesn't mean they're not gorging themselves later on. They're fat because they eat at a caloric surplus. It's thermodynamics. They are eating above maintenance. Also, 1000 calories is 1000 calories

Eating 2500 cals and burning 3000 cals is not a 500 calorie deficit. That's just netting 500 calories, which for me would be a 2000 calorie deficit
Maintenance 3000.
Eat 2500.
500 Caloric deficit. What am I missing?

Also, please jump back a page and read some of KGB7's posts. Then come back and rage.


Originally Posted by KGB7 View Post
I started working out again about a month ago, but this time i dont use any shakes or supplements, I just eat properly. The end result so far, im gaining muscle slower but at the same time im not gaining fat, i'm actually losing fat that i gained from drinking too much beer for the past 6 months.

So if you want to gain quality weight, stay away from shakes. It will take you longer to gain muscle but once you do, you wont lose it. Because shakes do help you gain mass faster, but you have too keep drinking them to keep muscles.

The only supplement you should be taking is mutli-vitamins.

Counting calories is pointless as well, because you can eat 1,000 calories a day and still gain fat. Its all about eating foods that are "alkaline". So you need to a Maintain a pH Balance. Too much acidic food will kill body cells and slow down muscle growth.
Originally Posted by KGB7 View Post
1st. You confirmed what i said is true. If you take away the shakes, you start losing the things they gave you in the first place. It wont be over night, or over a week time. This what you assumed and why you jumped the gun.

2nd. You can eat 1,000 calories a day and not end up in the hospital. Its not about how much of calories you eat, but where those calories come from. Veggies have calories, and vegans live on a very low calorie diet, yet none of them ever went to a hospital because of low calorie consumption. You will lose weight if you consume low amount of calories, but you would have to end at 100lb or less to end up in the hospital.

Many people switch to a strict vegan diet for a month or more to lose a lot of weight safely while remaining healthy and become healthier in the process of doing so.

Simple question for you. Why do fat people stay fat even if they drink 0 calorie sodas??