thanks for all the input! The info about the changes at Porsche are a little discouraging. They've been at or near the very top of the quality lists for a very long time, so it will be interesting to see what happens there. If I get one, I think it will have to be certified and definitely not one that has even a hint of being mistreated. I've thought about an M3 a lot, but I just don't want a car that I've already had. I certainly haven't had an M3, but I've had both an e46 and e92, so yea while it drives entirely differently it's still sort of the same.
2017 230i coupe on order for October ED