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      11-08-2012, 06:06 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by MiddleAgedAl View Post
Boy was it ever.

I think there's no question that certain aspects of the Republican platform are not too appealing to certain groups of non-whites, esp their stance on immigration.

I think there's also no question that if you look at any available studies of birthrates, and you see the number of children white couples are having compared the number of children non-whites are having (esp the hispanics who are affected by the immigration stance), there is an ever growing gap there too.

On top of that, you could argue that the Republicans are a party whose policies benefit the self-sufficient and affluent more. Again, studies all continue to show that career-oriented, college educated professionals (regardless of race), who statistically tend to earn more, also tend to have their first child later in life than those who dont study past high school, and to compound that, they also end up having fewer children in total by the time they reach the end of their childbearing years.

Anyone who understands what binary exponentiation is can tell you there will be an ever increasing gap in the size of the target audience.

Demographically, there is a big problem there for the Republicans that will only get worse with time.

The part that must be really frustrating for long-time Republican party members, especially those who were not born with a silver spoon in their mouth and earned their wealth, is that they can see that it is actually in the self-interest of these soon-to-no-longer-be-minority groups to work harder at improving their lives to the point where they would fall into the category of people who would actually benefit MORE from the current Republican platform than the Democratic one! Especially the fiscal/tax aspects of it. There are things they have 100% control over to increase their chances of getting there; have fewer kids so that you can afford to better provide for the ones you do have, send them to college so that future generations benefit, etc. But, birthrate studies show that ain't happening in big numbers, at least not yet.

What should the Republicans do ? Change portions of their platform to appeal to those who choose to not act in their own long term best interest?
Good post. You may be surprised to hear that I agree with almost everything you have said. Let me say upfront I'm a Democrat and I know why I'm a Democrat. I'm also an African American who is socially liberal and who understands and appreciates fiscal conservatism. I'm college educated, have my own business and have never been on welfare. My folks struggled and worked hard to make a decent life for our family. No one in my family has ever been on welfare. We were always encouraged to work hard, get good grades in school and be the best we can be. I'm frustrated by the fact the Republican party has historically been non representative of minorities and takes a hard line on social issues. It's hard to hear a message no matter how well intentioned or potentially beneficial it may be if the messenger is demonizing and mischaracterizing who you are or signaling in other ways you are not welcome or important. I know for a fact there are a lot of African Americans who would be Republicans if they felt sincerely welcomed by the party. I strongly suspect the same sentiment is probably true for other minorities such as Hispanics and Asians who are currently strongly trending Democrat. In a two party system it's insane to me that both parties are not equally welcoming and inclusive of everyone. Today they are not.

While you may honestly believe voting Republican is more beneficial to African Americans and other minorities, telling them they are not smart for not doing so is offensive and patronizing. That's not the way to attract them and sway them to your point of view. The message has to be sincerely welcoming and inclusive and respectful of their inteligence. I'm optimistic that this election may represent a turning point for the Republican party. If they want to survive and continue to be relevent they have to make a sincere effort to be more inclusive. If they do it won't take long to see results. If they don't they should not expect to have a representive in the White House anytime soon.