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      12-05-2012, 10:50 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by kiwi29 View Post
I was looking at valvoline in walmart the other night and I didn't seem to see any LL approved oil. I did see that there was an oil brand that had LL-04? O.o what's the difference vs. LL-01?
I think ill just stick straight to mobil 1. Its a "noisy" oil according to other people but I don't seem to notice a thing, I'm kinda curious, do oil stabilizers need to be LL approved?
LL04 is a low-Saps version of LL01. LL04 has been used in parts of europe since the days of the E46/E39 etc. Both are ACEA A3/B4 but LL04 also has C3 (low Saps designation ).

Due to inconsistent sulphur levels and ethanol BMW specs LL01 for gassers in North America. US diesels use LL04.