Originally Posted by Red Bread
Yeah, I guess we see it differently. I assume your 135i and S4 (and GTI) are/were manuals? I just find heavy cars with flat torque curves to be sort of transmission agnostic. Meaning the auto/dsg option is usually as much or more fun than the manuals.
Give me a light, peaky rwd car with a manual, but I'm sort of mixed on heavier, awd, flat torque curved cars. Note that CTS-V is quicker with an automatic than a manual (as are the N54/N55 cars), not that I'd prefer the auto, but the advance of automatic transmissions, especially in conjunction with torque everywhere, is sort of making manuals look silly on most cars, even, sadly, the 991.
My 73 year old dad still drives a manual FD RX7 and has a Miata, and my mom had a manual Trooper until a few years ago.
I've only owned one auto car and it was a Saab in college and I swore I would never own another. I've held to that thus far. I've said this many times in many threads but I don't care if it's faster. Driving is about involvement. If the car didn't have a steering wheel because satellite technology advanced to the point that cars guided themselves more accurately than a conventional wheel, wouldn't that also decrease driver involvement in a similar manner? Driving, to me, should involve all of my limbs - not just my left hand and right foot.