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      12-07-2012, 10:40 AM   #54
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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh View Post
Really? This is what BMW has come to? It needs Cadillac to make it improve the the driving dynamics of the 3-Series? I thought the 3-Series WAS the Ultimate Driving Machine benchmark. That's what we've all been told. Wow!
Have you driven an F30? How do you think it compares to the e90?

I haven't had a chance to drive the new car. Maybe it's fine. I crawled over one at an auto show. Trunk space is improved, rear seat room is better, and it's easier to get in and out of. But I keep hearing that it doesn't feel as responsive.

Other manufacturers have been trying to bottle the 3-series magic for a long time. The ATS might be the closest thing yet. Product trumps marketing and Cadillac, aside from CTS, has always been all bark and no bite. Just like Cadillac, what BMW says it builds doesn't matter as much as what comes out of the factory.

Slightly off topic, but here's a comparison between the Zeta and Alpha platform. The zeta is a Camaro version, but it also underpins CTS. Alpha is under the ATS. One is built to handle 500+ hp, and the other isn't.

Zeta (you'll need to copy and paste this into your browser):


Last edited by Wrngway; 12-07-2012 at 02:35 PM.