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Originally Posted by floydarogers
Motul, Total Quartz, Liqui Moly probably have LL12/whatever oils. I would be surprised if Pentosin doesn't have one, too.
The whole Group IV/PAO are the only "full synthetic" oils is a crap argument. The Shell Helix isn't "full synthetic", because the intermediate isn't Group IV.
It's especially silly when the person making that argument is changing their oil every 5K/7.5K miles, wasting their outdated argument on an outdated desire to change oil more often than the manufacturer recommends.
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Online search says LL12 and LL14 are special oil:
"BMW Longlife-12 (BMW
LL-12)
Special motor oil for certain approved gasoline engines and the following diesel engines only:
Nx7K1, Nx7U1, Nx7O1 from model year 2013. Not suitable for engines with 2 or 3 turbos
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BMW Longlife-14+ (BMW
LL-14+)
Special motor oil for the following gasoline engines only:
N20, Bx8 from model year 2014. Not allowed for diesel engines."