Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com
I appreciate the note and I would also ask that before invoking product names in your posts that you spend more time learning the platform. Clearly certain aspects of how the N54 works are being mischaracterized to fit in to your model of how you've tuned other platforms or how you think it should work. For example, you and clap135 continually ignore the adaptive timing system. Instead you say "well, if you set the advance maximums so low that it can't adapt up then you'll have tuning like you would in any other platform", and that is of course true. But no one does that and for very good reason. The adaptive advance system is one of the best things about this
platform. Timing is managed on a cylinder by cylinder basis and is almost perfectly timed in every situation, condition, and octane. It's never lazy or undertimed and never knocks. Try doing that with manual timing tables.
Also this has nothing to do with products. The fact is there are more tunes out there using the JB3s method of timing control than there are using CPS. It's about understanding how the DME and tunes work. I think clap135 put it really eloquently when he said if you add race gas and timing goes up its knocking. That seems a reasonable position and as I've said that will happen with any tune on this market. If you don't believe it then let's put that to the test once again. You'll be surprised.
Mike what the HELL are you smoking? I know they got the good shit up there in Canada but please put it down for a minute.
yes the car knocks
yes the car knocks a lot more on JB tunes
yes the car is lazy when it knocks because the timing is being pulled out to save the motor from more knock......aka DAMAGE (shut it InCityPhoto on this one)
NO there are not more different tunes out there that ignore timing control than use it
NO riding the knock sensors at raised boost levels and expecting the motor to run better on the stock timing is not ideal
I know you get your responses or even worse yet your knowledge base from Terry but damn man........step back from the keyboard for a second and think about this.
Or send me some of what your smoking and i'll join you on planet Merry for a bit.