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Originally Posted by 135i_TT

Video Proof that the TDI gets better MPG than the Hybrid and is more fun and nicer all around
Jetta TDI vs Hybrid Challenge (In order from 1-6)

VW Jetta TDI gets 49.9mpg into the 50mpg rage as the Prius gets 42mpg
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...7021/1008/FREE

VWvortex "TDI better tan Hybrid":
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2573373&page=1

VW Golf TDI avg mpg 69mpg and also how TDI's are always worth more and last longer than regular gas cars and hybrids and how hybrids do worst than both:
http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/06/auto...brid/index.htm

Theres so much more proof but I think this is good for now =)

1.)Lets start with you 69mpg link. That is on the European cycle! The '10 Insight freakishly can get that high on regular. The Prius will definitely do better on cycle of gas we measure in the U.S. Also, you are quoting the mileage on a VW "Concept Vehicle." In the same article is states the combined mileage for the 06 Jetta TDI is at a horrid 33mpg. Do you have any idea how mucha a TDI hybrid would cost? I'd wager an easy $30,000.

2.) Lets move on to the 49.9mpg TDI vs 42mpg Prius link.
Once again, did you read what they said?

" Part of the shortfall was due to the pace we maintained"

Despite the 8mpg difference, the Prius was cheaper to fuel. The TDI was running on the hard to find and slightly more expensive B20 biodiesel as well.

http://kec.kansas.gov/chart_book/Cha...eselPrices.pdf

3.) I enjoyed a few of the YouTube Challenges. Here is an Insight Challenge posted yesterday. I post it because the Prius WILL no doubt do better.





Everycar has its mpg Freaks but come on!! Take note this was NOT the European Cycle. Everyone gets caught up reading diesel info and its not measured the same. I know b/c I made the same mistake with the MINI Cooper D. Most of those cars across the pond cant meet strict certificiations anyway. I would have no point if they did.

Lets take a stroll over to TDIClub.com forums:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread...214055&page=41

There are a lot of PO'ed people getting in the low 30's. Those that arent complaining have to drive 60-63mph on the highway to get in the mid 40's. Or they have to locate ''special diesels." Its too much of a pain in the neck. My first car was a VW. I have a soft spot for them but I wont be buying a TDI until they become more efficient out the box. I wont buy a hybrid until its sportier enough for me either. :wink:


My point yet again: If the car does not get considerably better fuel economy, if any, and costs more $$, how does it cost less to fuel over the long run?