[2bmw2]

salesdude, I wrote only that you could get a payment to 497. You did the math and proved the point. I made no affordability claim, and the post had nothing to do with the car I do or do not drive.

And yes, I agree, public has some impact on pricing. Dealers do too. That is how supply and demand works. I know what I want to pay for a given car and I shop for a dealer with whom I am comfortable and with whom I can reach an agreement. If we do not agree I shop elsewhere or I do not buy.

As for commodity, a car is a commodity, yes, but you will want to differentiate yourself by value-added service. Part of that value-added service is your presence in the enthusiast community. As such, your taking shots at others in an online forum is not a value added to either your employer or prospective clients.