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      11-02-2007, 05:40 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by silverbmwz3 View Post
If they knew someone was about to carry out a suicide attack? How do you know that for sure? I'm sure they don't advertise it - surely the only way to find someone about to carry out a suicide attack is when they have something strapped to them and are about to detonate it ? Anything else and you are catching them with bags of fertiliser in their bathroom surely?

I can't agree that shoot to kill is a bad idea. If I was on a tube and a guy walks on with a bomb I want someone to shoot him dead. It seems you are confusing/clouding it with the intelligence being poor. Perhaps the intelligence will always be poor, but to be fair they knew this guys neighbour was a terrorist. What if it had been him?

Excuse me Mr Terrorist NFS would like you to disarm that bomb you are wearing but he wouldn't like me to shoot you so if you'd like to escort me to the station .....

I'm sure these guys didn't dream this policy up for the good of their careers - I think they've proved that already, they dreamt it up for a reason.
I'm going to start of by apologising. Normally I enjoy a debate, but frankly this particular issue makes me so angry that I don't want to debate it. I won't be happy until that evil arrogant sadistic moron has been booted out of his job.

The role of the police is to protect the public.

If they suspect that someone is going to blow themselves and other people up, the police should stop them - immediately. The law already permits the use of lethal force where that force is reasonable.

They should not wait until the bomb is about to be detonated. They should arrest them - when the bags of fertiliser are still in their bedroom - not when people are at risk of being killed.

I am absolutely in favour of shooting terrorists. The problem is that I can't identify terrorists by sight and neither can the police. The killing of De Menezes proves this as does the verdict in this recent trial.

Operation Kratos says that terrorists should be shot in the head. The reason it is completely and utterly stupid, dangerous and abhorent is that no thought at all has been given as to the basis on which the officer in question decides that the target is a terrorist.

The police are not entitled to randomly kill people in the street, this wasn't an 'accident', the police didn't protect anyone in this situation. They followed an innocent man and they murdered him without warning and in cold blood.

The underlined line sums things up for me .. the intelligence WILL always be poor. This tragic incident confirms that. De Menezes did nothing wrong. I don't know what my neighbours do, but I sure as hell don't want to live in a country where the people I pay to enforce the law might shoot me seven times in the head without any warning 'by accident'.
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