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Originally Posted by BlackJetE90
I would take the ATS as well. Had a couple F30 loaners, did not like them at all. And the IS styling is not to my taste (as to many others). Cadillac is now being rated as the most fun to drive in the segment. Like you said as a package, the segment is really tight.
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I actually like the Lexus styling, it's weird, but at least it gets my attention. The only reason an F30 gets my attention is that I like to try to tell if it's an F10 or F30.
But I want a manual, and Lexus doesn't play that, so it's ATS or F30. BMW and Audi have sized themselves out of my preferred size range, and with the even larger new C and upcoming B9 A4, I really don't see much choice for reasonably sized four doors with three pedals. If Caddy can just get their engines right, and work a little more feel into the manual box (and add the ubiquitous 8s ZF), they should win a lot of sales. A 2GC would go a long way towards getting my interest back in BMW sedans, but I suspect it's a long ways off.
I forgot about Infiniti, a brand I used to think best understood how to compete with the 3er, but they've just gone off the crazy French deep end.