Thread: Vargas Turbos
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      04-25-2014, 07:13 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by jippii ensio View Post
The origin of the problem is the design of the turbos. Vargas stage 2 turbos do NOT have their CHRA upgraded. Using the performance that the TD04 wheels would enable, will cause the stock TD03 CHRA blow oil. The way to avoid blowing oil is to stick with the power levels of stock turbos and CHRAs. But then, what is the point of buying upgraded turbos, if the bottleneck is the stock CHRA and you cannot use the turbos to their capacity without blowing oil? It does not help much to get the refund, does it? Its better to get a proper upgrade to start with rather than waste time with a badly designed one.
You always know how to come into a thread and mention the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about (probably because it has already been discussed at length and degenerated into a poop throwing contest). There are hardware differences in the CHRA, wheel, and the internal waste gate assembly. Plus the debate about the thrust upgrade not being needed for the stage 2 type configuration.

There also used to be a big price point difference. If I go to the 2 websites today for an example of LHD 335:

VVT stage 2: 2882.97 + 400 core = 3282.97
RB = 2999.99 + 300 core = 3299.99

So essentially the price difference is gone. The consumer just needs to decide on the hardware differences and track records. The hardware differences have been discussed at length and the forums provide some good feedback.

Edit: I feel for both vendors when it comes to install error as it is very hard to determine remotely when you can't witness it directly. That does not seem to be the case with the OP since the shop is reputable.

Last edited by scottp999; 04-25-2014 at 07:21 AM..
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