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      09-21-2008, 11:20 AM   #21
oddjob2021
ASR Turbos+LSD+Meth= :D
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Originally Posted by BALLAJL15 View Post
what kind of gains are you supposed to see with this?
well from a butt dyno so far maybe 5-10 wheel untuned. with a tune? 3x more probably.

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Originally Posted by thr33fivei View Post
How much Hp do we expect from this?
im guessing a max of 30 at the wheel. but snow also offers nitro methane :P which just has a lot more oxygen :P snow says increases of 30-50 hp

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Originally Posted by BuLoOoSki View Post
this seems to be very neat and I have to say that active seem to have done a clean job. Hope it will be safe to run this and hope you'll enjoy it with all the gains
Thank you man! I appreciate it!

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Originally Posted by maui86 View Post
i've been waiting for a meth kit to come out specifically for our cars. now the only issue is tuning it i guess? i dont want to put it in if its going to cause a bunch of funky issues with the v3. since i live in hawaii, a custom tune from shiv is not possible :-(...but anyways, great job active! very very very nice to see this done!!!
water meth will only help, even without a tune, as explained in the op. i am pretty sure (85% ish) that v3 will love it :P and thanks for the gratz

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Originally Posted by dadasracecar View Post
Balls of steel man! Nice. Can't wait for the results.
One question:
I'm not sure if I know exactly what "safe injection" is but will you have a failsafe in the map to go back to stock timing if the meth flow is interrupted? You make power with water/meth by advancing the timing. If you run out fluid or a line gets kinked or the pump fails and your still running the advanced timing you can very easily damage the engine.
hmmm you may have a point, but they would have said something if there was an issue i think and thanks for gratz too!!

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Originally Posted by 5soko335i View Post
Super clean install!

Awesome job with the pics man, very nicely documented! GL
thanks bud! the comments really are appreciated

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Originally Posted by 1clean335i View Post
Very nice! How much did the install run you?
well, it was 11 hrs of work

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Originally Posted by BavarianBullet View Post
I've seen the failsafe question come up more than once and I always wondered: if the car has an automatic knock control to adjust timing to stay clear of knock, why would you be worried about aggressive timing and meth failing?

The only thing I can think of is that the meth tune is more than just timing advance (like significantly leaner A/F ratio commanded while under meth inj) and maybe that is too risky?

The last question I had was this though: if meth/H20 injection lowers intake temps so much, that by itself should be picked up by the ECU and you really wouldn't need to manually adjust timing via spec tune. i.e. A 50'F+ drop should net you quite a bit of timing automatically via ECU. No meth, no problem, ECU handles it all. A/F ratio is a different story though. I'd like to know what spec tunes are doing- timing only or significant A/F ratio changes.

Awesome pics and setup. Thanks so much for sharing!

BB
you seem to know a lot more than me about tuning and our ecu and yes after about a day i felt a good increase, i'd say 5-10 across the board whp, so maybe ur right. ill ask what active does

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Originally Posted by CanadianTSi View Post
What size Nozzle are you running?
375ml/min (300-450 rwhp nozzle) and basically, what I was really impressed by, is the nozzle instantly atomizes the mix, you want it as close to the throttle body as possible for max power

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Originally Posted by midlife View Post
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thanks

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Originally Posted by DrewKo View Post
Nice! How much does the meth/water cost?
about 500 taxed and shipped for stage 2 (what i have), which progressivly injects, starts at about 4psi and is at full pump pressure by 8

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Originally Posted by BoostedBMW View Post
That's a clean install... it looks like the guys at active did a good job.

I'm curious as to how you ran the line from the tank in the trunk up to the engine bay... did you go through the cabin or underneath the car?
hell yea they did, i was really impressed.

actually, out the bottom of the trunk and under all the heat shields, under the shrouding at the front, and up

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Originally Posted by jeffE92TT View Post
damnnn.... WHY SO SERIOUS?

haha meth inject is the shits
haha i tend to agree, but it can be dangerous if done wrong
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