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Hmmm I didn't realize that they were banned. I don't go on the forum as often so I don't really care either way. What I don't like though is the constant thread derailing (not necessarily because of those two but just in general). It's like someone posts something and everyone else feels the need to derail it. You'd have to go through like 50 posts to get to a few that are related to the original post...
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