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Originally Posted by Clap135
1. Using a BT tool to log Giac, is not Giac logging btw
2. Same
3. What did that cost you again?
4. Its slow, Ive also seen like 2 logs in the 3 years it has been out.
If you preach GIAC, why arnt you running it then. Put it back on your and stop complaining about the same shit in every Cobb thread.
As far as cobb issues, these recent internal dme codes were all on v300 which is already solved by cobb. The reason you hear so much more about it is becuase I would bet my ass on the line that cobb tuned cars outnumber giac tuned cars 10 to 1, and cobb has been out for a couple of months. You want a real tune, sit back and wait, you want to bitch and complain, put on your Giac tune and be happy
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Clap,
Yes, GIAC does cost more. I paid $800 for Stage 1. In my opinion, given the alternatives, it is worth EVERY PENNY!
Why I am not running GIAC: that's simple. I've said it many times openly and I will reiterate it again for 100th time: GIAC absolutely drives me up the wall with their method of installation. The entire visiting a dealer, getting a read file off the ECU, waiting on GIAC to produce a flash file for your ECU, then the GIAC dealer installing it on your car is absolutely ridiculous. Last time this happend, it took GIAC 3 months to come up with a flash tune for my ECU.
It is BY FAR, GIAC's biggest fault and problem: dealing with their dealers for reflash. It takes time, it costs extra money sometimes and it is annoying. I admit it and I am constantly telling everyone about it.
However, just like I tell everyone about this fault, I make sure everyone knows the comparison between Cobb and GIAC, because I own both!
Listen, to end this Cobb vs GIAC discussion: I have no horse in this. I own both products. I only care for the tune that will perform CONSISTENTLY the best on the street, on the track, in the winter, in the summer. It does not matter to me which flash tune this is.
At this point in time, Cobb is seriously lacking compared to GIAC, but it has a lot more potential. I bought it because it has potential to become something truly remarkable in the future. At this point in time though, it is just mediocre.