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Originally Posted by younghov85
I sort of agree with what matsarge is saying, bc the 335i im thinking would be harder to modify engine-wise due to the new technology in the CPU. the M3 has been out for sometime now so companies like Dinan already have the top performance upgrades. Also with that extra amount of torque in the 335i, it would be very quick but with 333hp (which i think is underrated) the M3 is still going to be much faster than the 335i. And regardless, you cant even truly compare a non-M to an M, can you? Maybe in looks but in performance, I doubt it. thats like comparing performance of the old M5 to a 550i, of course the 550i is gonna have better features, but can it compare in the performance department. No. Thats what separates the non-M cars to the M cars.
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Great point about comparing an M to a "non-M".
The 335 is not going to be as close to the E46 M3 as we think in terms of performance IMO.
0-60 is 4.6.- 4.8 (depending on the source) for the M3 vs. 5.3 for the 335. When you're talking in the context of only 5 seconds, a 1/2 a sec. is a long time (10% of the total to be exact, so you can say the M3 will be at least 10% faster in terms of 0-60).
Yes the TQ is higher but it hits it's max at 1300 RPM so it will have a great initial launch and then TQ will drop after that. The M3's TQ maxes at 4900 so it should in theory pull better throughout the entire rpm band. By the time the 335 hits 4900 RPM, it's large TQ advantage will be gone and the higher the RPM's goes, the M3 will probably hold an advantage.
Not only is the HP higher on the M3, to the overall range is better. The 335 will max (300 HP) at 5800 and drop from there with a 7000 RPM redline. The M3 hits max (333 HP) at 7900 with a 8000+ redline. When the 335 is sucking wind and having to change gears, the M3 will still be pulling toward max HP and climbing. This range will give the M3 the ability to not have to change gears early to take in for higher RPM power loss.
Top end speed is no match either since you have to get the sport package on the 335 to hit 150. The M3 will hit 155. Take out the limiter on both and the extra HP of the M3 gives it even greater potential then the 335.
Will the 335 be an impressive car? Without a doubt, there's no question there. But let's not fool ourselves into thinking it's going to be some sort of E46 M3 "killer".