Same thing, actually newest ediabas , ncs ect that work with win7 64bit is somewhere over internet for free, since ncs isnt cracked you dont have privilages to make any other profile other than expert one and you actually pay not for ncs and ediabas but for profiles to them. i paid 2000$ with newest daten not long time ago cause i have open garage here in Wroclaw in Poland so its quite usefull for me
