[Templar]

There is too much hype involved in the supplement biz for people. A M&F magazine (or any male fitness mag) will show every single supp they can no matter what is said about them.

Nothing can substitute pure foods, healthy foods, at the right time and in the right amount. Those looking for the quick and easy ways (i.e. supplement shakes and garbage) will get garbage in return. I lol'd at the person who said they gained 20 lbs of "muscle mass" just by using Muscle Milk. More like 15 of muscle MAYBE and the rest fat. Unless you are a professional with endless time to workout and trainers supporting you, NO ONE gets 100% muscle gains with no fat gain at the same time, and I mean NO ONE. Even professionals bulk up then cut to get rid of the fat they built up (and guess what, they do lose SOME muscle when they cut, it's inevitable). The human body and metabolism does have it's limits...