[Bubbles]

Great article in Roundel's April edition.
"others usually create a "piggyback" ECU that fools the stock system into thinking it is not making as much boost at that rpm as it's suppose to. The ECU responds by upping the boost to make up for that deficiency.

Unfortunately, the BMW's ECU does more than just control boost; it is also in charge of fuel mapping, ignition timing, knock control, and a host of emissions controls and other engine-saving code. A piggyback ECU will never properly replace all of those functions in your car. Unless you use very-high-octane fuel, the BMW's ECU will retard ignition timing and fuel mapping in the best interests of saving your engine."

407 hp @ 5,700rpm
429 lb/tq @ 3,700rpm

23 hp from the IC priced at $1600


"E92 M3 drivers beware: If you encounter a 335i with a Dinan badge on the trunk, don't throw down the pink slips. The car is so fast i a straight line you'll have to hitchhike home....the Dinan sledge pulls like a proverbial bullet train well into triple digits.

[Spool]

is that wheel hp or fly hp? it's likely fly HP

[NYCGarbagePrince]

LOL Dinan is saying they put down 407/429.. Check your own dyno bubbles. They are talking crank.. and the 23 hp from the IC is crank as well.. which puts it right in line with all of the other options.

[Spool]

if they dyno at 407/429 shit i'll pay money for that

[Orb]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Great article in Roundel's April edition.
"others usually create a "piggyback" ECU that fools the stock system into thinking it is not making as much boost at that rpm as it's suppose to. The ECU responds by upping the boost to make up for that deficiency.

Unfortunately, the BMW's ECU does more than just control boost; it is alos in charge of fuel mapping, ignition timing, knock control, and a host of emissions controls and other engine-saving code. A piggyback ECU will never properly replace all of those functions in your car. Unless you use very-high-octane fuel, the BMW's ECU will retard ignition timing and fuel mapping in the best interests of saving your engine."

429 lb/tq @ 3,700

23 hp from the IC priced at $1600

You are not going to tease now....post the article.

Orb

[SPDFAN]

Wait a minute, so this is the stage 2 people had been talking about? Or these are the numbers from Dinan's original flash?

[Bubbles]

I don't have a scanner

[Orb]

Originally Posted by NYCGarbagePrince

LOL Dinan is saying they put down 407/429.. Check your own dyno bubbles. They are talking crank.. and the 23 hp from the IC is crank as well.. which puts it right in line with all of the other options.

It is going to be the same as the PROcede. We already know the pressures drop of the IC so it going to be 14.5 PSI boost. No surprise for me at least as I knew they were not going to spool up the turbos. It has more torque however

Wounder how much the air box upgrade is. Is it good for another 8 whp as they got a mini flash for it.

Orb

[Orb]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

I don't have a scanner

A camera will do....works for me.

Orb

[GBX]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

I don't have a scanner

oh man. I just rejoined the BMWCCA (have a 335xi cp on order). Probably wont get April's issue of Roundel. I really want to read this! Someone's gotta scan this!

[Diesel///M]

so total to get that 407/429 is only 3,700 where did you find this?

[sambonator]

Originally Posted by Diesel335i

so total to get that 407/429 is only 3,700 where did you find this?

...plus installation, which is probably an additional...$1200?
If you dont have the oil cooler, add $2000 plus installation (maybe another $1200?)

Grand total could be $8000 plus...

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Great article in Roundel's April edition.
"others usually create a "piggyback" ECU that fools the stock system into thinking it is not making as much boost at that rpm as it's suppose to. The ECU responds by upping the boost to make up for that deficiency.

Unfortunately, the BMW's ECU does more than just control boost; it is also in charge of fuel mapping, ignition timing, knock control, and a host of emissions controls and other engine-saving code. A piggyback ECU will never properly replace all of those functions in your car. Unless you use very-high-octane fuel, the BMW's ECU will retard ignition timing and fuel mapping in the best interests of saving your engine."

429 lb/tq @ 3,700

23 hp from the IC priced at $1600

Awesome information! Thank you Bubbles.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by sambonator

...plus installation, which is probably an additional...$1200?
If you dont have the oil cooler, add $2000 plus installation (maybe another $1200?)

Grand total could be $8000 plus...

IC install is the 3.5 hours max...i want your calculator when i have my pay check made.

Orb

[J.]

Did they actually release the spec of the IC yet??

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by Orb

IC install is the 3.5 hours max...i want your calculator when i have my pay check made.

Orb

+1

[Hunter399]

They bought the rights to the Spearco intercooler

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by hunter399

They bought the rights to the Spearco intercooler

You can still get it....

[Orb]

Originally Posted by J.

Did they actually release the spec of the IC yet??

It is based on the Spearco IC. I posted a thread a few months ago with the data so you can use it as a base line. The engineer from Spearco did say it almost identical not less than a week ago.

Wheel Power:

Whp ~365
Wtq ~385

Orb

[radix]

Originally Posted by Diesel335i

so total to get that 407/429 is only 3,700 where did you find this?

I think he means RPMs, not dollars.

[Kelvin1000]

Those are HP at the crank.

I have the Dinan "Stage 1" Flash.

What is the difference in HP / TQ from the current flash to the stage 2?

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Great article in Roundel's April edition.
"others usually create a "piggyback" ECU that fools the stock system into thinking it is not making as much boost at that rpm as it's suppose to. The ECU responds by upping the boost to make up for that deficiency.

Unfortunately, the BMW's ECU does more than just control boost; it is also in charge of fuel mapping, ignition timing, knock control, and a host of emissions controls and other engine-saving code. A piggyback ECU will never properly replace all of those functions in your car. Unless you use very-high-octane fuel, the BMW's ECU will retard ignition timing and fuel mapping in the best interests of saving your engine."

407 hp @ 5,700rpm
429 lb/tq @ 3,700rpm

23 hp from the IC priced at $1600


"E92 M3 drivers beware: If you encounter a 335i with a Dinan badge on the trunk, don't throw down the pink slips. The car is so fast i a straight line you'll have to hitchhike home....the Dinan sledge pulls like a proverbial bullet train well into triple digits.

[Hunter399]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

You can still get it....

ya but not for long