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      05-10-2011, 08:58 AM   #111
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Hi All. First post here so Hello All.

I have a 2010 335d (E91) Touring. It came with the Single M3 Style paddles (I.e. Pull left to go down a gear and Pull right to go up a Gear). When deciding on the purchase my wife drove a car with the two way paddles (ie you can push either side to go down a gear or pull either side to go up a gear) and decided that if the car would have these then we would have this model as opposed to a manual 330d or a Manual 335i

Anyway I have bought some two way paddles and followed the handy guide and fitted them but they do not work at all and prevent the sport mode from working, if i change the paddles back everything works fine.

The M3 style paddles each have a three way connector but only use pins 1 and three, the two paddles use all three and I have tried wapping out all the pins to no avail.

What I have discovered is the the down shift paddle and a low resitance (0.35k ohms) when pressed and the up shift paddle higher resistance (1.18k ohms), whereas the two paddles have no resistance at all.

From this I conclude that later model cars work in a different way - I perhaps need to get hold of some resistors and try some investtagtions?

any comments?

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      06-10-2011, 04:22 AM   #112
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      06-10-2011, 07:33 AM   #113
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Hi All. First post here so Hello All.

I have a 2010 335d (E91) Touring. It came with the Single M3 Style paddles (I.e. Pull left to go down a gear and Pull right to go up a Gear). When deciding on the purchase my wife drove a car with the two way paddles (ie you can push either side to go down a gear or pull either side to go up a gear) and decided that if the car would have these then we would have this model as opposed to a manual 330d or a Manual 335i

Anyway I have bought some two way paddles and followed the handy guide and fitted them but they do not work at all and prevent the sport mode from working, if i change the paddles back everything works fine.

The M3 style paddles each have a three way connector but only use pins 1 and three, the two paddles use all three and I have tried wapping out all the pins to no avail.

What I have discovered is the the down shift paddle and a low resitance (0.35k ohms) when pressed and the up shift paddle higher resistance (1.18k ohms), whereas the two paddles have no resistance at all.

From this I conclude that later model cars work in a different way - I perhaps need to get hold of some resistors and try some investtagtions?

any comments?

cheers

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how much do you want for the single way paddles?

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      06-10-2011, 03:29 PM   #114
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Hi All. First post here so Hello All.

I have a 2010 335d (E91) Touring. It came with the Single M3 Style paddles (I.e. Pull left to go down a gear and Pull right to go up a Gear). When deciding on the purchase my wife drove a car with the two way paddles (ie you can push either side to go down a gear or pull either side to go up a gear) and decided that if the car would have these then we would have this model as opposed to a manual 330d or a Manual 335i

Anyway I have bought some two way paddles and followed the handy guide and fitted them but they do not work at all and prevent the sport mode from working, if i change the paddles back everything works fine.

The M3 style paddles each have a three way connector but only use pins 1 and three, the two paddles use all three and I have tried wapping out all the pins to no avail.

What I have discovered is the the down shift paddle and a low resitance (0.35k ohms) when pressed and the up shift paddle higher resistance (1.18k ohms), whereas the two paddles have no resistance at all.

From this I conclude that later model cars work in a different way - I perhaps need to get hold of some resistors and try some investtagtions?

any comments?

cheers

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ive tried fitting the newer paddles to my 2007 and cant get them to work have you had any luck with yours
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      06-11-2011, 04:30 AM   #115
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ive tried fitting the newer paddles to my 2007 and cant get them to work have you had any luck with yours
You seen this Jeff:

http://www.burgertuning.com/paddleshift.html

It might be worth finding out a bit more about it.
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      06-11-2011, 09:09 AM   #116
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You seen this Jeff:

http://www.burgertuning.com/paddleshift.html

It might be worth finding out a bit more about it.
hi ian, i emailed them twice to see if they had any advice in swopping the paddles but they never responded! this kit is a total retrofit kit which i think is relatively easy. im waiting to see what h+c have to say on monday otherwise i think i will have to send them back (more problems no doubt!)
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      07-02-2011, 04:48 PM   #117
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ive tried fitting the newer paddles to my 2007 and cant get them to work have you had any luck with yours
Acerboo

I have responded to your PM, but having seen the latest posts here by Gizard, he suggests the new switches change resistance rather than being open/ close, I think this means the newer switches [LCi] will not work with pre LCi cars without some coding if at all.

PS Gizard are you also from the Isle of Wight?
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      07-28-2011, 09:39 AM   #118
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any progress for the new style shifters?
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      07-28-2011, 05:05 PM   #119
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any progress for the new style shifters?
yes i have them working now, i got mine from nexon motors on ebay, the 1st set we could not get to work, i told nexon and he sent another set he said had been modifired , i took these to h+c motors in maidstone and he got them to work with some rewiring, cost me 80, which was well worth it.
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Nice, what was the total cost in the end? Sorry if it says in the thread I'm on my phone
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      07-29-2011, 03:42 PM   #121
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Nice, what was the total cost in the end? Sorry if it says in the thread I'm on my phone
about 240 for the paddles + 80 fitting
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      09-30-2011, 05:50 AM   #122
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Can anyone do this on a performance bmw steering wheel (Auto)? Would it be relativelyt he same to make it work?
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I also mounted the LCI paddles on my 2010 320d. Had to remove both rezistors in each paddle and jump one of them with a small wire.
They work perfectly.
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