E90Post
 


GetBMWParts
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > Suspension | Brakes | Chassis > Anyone ever install H&R Sport and it sits WAY too low?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-11-2011, 11:38 AM   #1
gizmo335i
Colonel
gizmo335i's Avatar
United_States
53
Rep
2,907
Posts

 
Drives: 08 JB E92 335i 6MT
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Antonio

iTrader: (50)

Garage List
2008 E92 335i  [4.73]
Anyone ever install H&R Sport and it sits WAY too low?

That's the deal in the front.

I did everything myself. I do have to re-do the front because I put the washers in the wrong place. But I don't think that would affect the height?

I had H&R Sport before and the front DID NOT sit this low.

I installed Koni Yellows as well. THANKS MIKE for you help.

I've always read that shocks have no affect on ride height. But after doing this, it would seem that they would. If the damn thing is shorter/seats further down, it should?

Just wondering if there's something else I'm not thinking of? I know all the pieces are there. Like I said, the only thing that is wrong is the washers being in the wrong spot.
__________________
JB4 | Vanguard/Quad burnt tips | Linea Corse | Mtech Front/rear | AFE DCI | H&R Sport + Koni yellow | Umnitza Full LED Angels | Akyrm lip/quad diffuser | Alpine CSL CF Trunklid
See Garage for more
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 04:51 PM   #2
alex2112
First Lieutenant
3
Rep
379
Posts

 
Drives: 2007 328i Coupe
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: MA

iTrader: (3)

pics? just how low is it?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 05:01 PM   #3
Express
Major General
Express's Avatar
Israel
129
Rep
8,701
Posts

 
Drives: 06 330i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The Promise Land

iTrader: (17)

Garage List
2006 BMW 330i  [4.15]
not low enough
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 05:27 PM   #4
gizmo335i
Colonel
gizmo335i's Avatar
United_States
53
Rep
2,907
Posts

 
Drives: 08 JB E92 335i 6MT
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Antonio

iTrader: (50)

Garage List
2008 E92 335i  [4.73]
Believe me, I like it low. But this is just a little TOO low. Hold on, I'll take a pic.

I'm scraping on any bump in the road. I had these before and the front was not this low.
__________________
JB4 | Vanguard/Quad burnt tips | Linea Corse | Mtech Front/rear | AFE DCI | H&R Sport + Koni yellow | Umnitza Full LED Angels | Akyrm lip/quad diffuser | Alpine CSL CF Trunklid
See Garage for more
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 05:32 PM   #5
Express
Major General
Express's Avatar
Israel
129
Rep
8,701
Posts

 
Drives: 06 330i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The Promise Land

iTrader: (17)

Garage List
2006 BMW 330i  [4.15]
scraping is a good thing
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 05:49 PM   #6
mike-y
just another bmw douche bag
United_States
36
Rep
3,398
Posts

 
Drives: 1.9L of fury
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (4)

Not sure, but I've been thinking about this, Giz.. if you have the washer on the bottom instead of the top of the spring plate, it could effectively raise the spring plate (since the washer sits on a ledge, iirc). since the top of the spring is now higher up in the whole assembly, it is acting like a lowering perch.

That's exactly how the supreme power lowering perches work - they raise the top of the spring mounting point. So now I think you've accidentally figured out an alternate way to lower the front of our cars.

this give me an idea haha
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 05:52 PM   #7
theriz
Colonel
United_States
28
Rep
2,868
Posts

 
Drives: 335i
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Ventura County, CA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2011 335i M-Sport  [2.00]
2009 X5  [5.00]
Send a message via Skype™ to theriz
pics or this thread fails.
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 06:06 PM   #8
edirtaynine
Major General
61
Rep
6,093
Posts

 
Drives: e92
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gizmo335i View Post
I do have to re-do the front because I put the washers in the wrong place. But I don't think that would affect the height?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mike-y View Post
Not sure, but I've been thinking about this, Giz.. if you have the washer on the bottom instead of the top of the spring plate, it could effectively raise the spring plate (since the washer sits on a ledge, iirc). since the top of the spring is now higher up in the whole assembly, it is acting like a lowering perch.
what washers are you guys talking about? im trying to remember the front suspension setup and all the little pieces, but not sure which washer could be moved top/bottom?
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 06:21 PM   #9
mike-y
just another bmw douche bag
United_States
36
Rep
3,398
Posts

 
Drives: 1.9L of fury
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (4)

washer #7 here:








if it's on top of the ledge on the strut shaft (under the spring plate), it's moving the whole assembly upward:

Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 06:40 PM   #10
edirtaynine
Major General
61
Rep
6,093
Posts

 
Drives: e92
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike-y View Post
washer #7 here:
ok thats the only washer i remember from the assembly too... but that washer is pretty thin no? i remember it being about as thick as most other washers... i didnt think removing that would be enough for a visible difference?
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 06:52 PM   #11
mike-y
just another bmw douche bag
United_States
36
Rep
3,398
Posts

 
Drives: 1.9L of fury
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (4)

it's actually beefy as far as a washer goes, it's thicker in the center. The lower spring plate is concave where it sits on the ledge of the strut shaft which lets it sit a bit lower than if it were on a flat surface like a table.

It could be enough to make a difference. I have some extra ones I can look at when I get home.
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 06:58 PM   #12
PaulBailey@ltbmw
General
PaulBailey@ltbmw's Avatar
Italy
339
Rep
26,779
Posts

 
Drives: 2-325 330 2-335 2-Z4 2-135 X5d
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Huntington Beach, CA

iTrader: (34)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to PaulBailey@ltbmw
pics?
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 07:27 PM   #13
hipnotic
Major General
hipnotic's Avatar
United_States
76
Rep
6,572
Posts

 
Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: So. Cal

iTrader: (6)

Garage List
2008 335i coupe  [3.50]
didn't you used to have race?
__________________
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 07:39 PM   #14
BLKLYZ
Colonel
BLKLYZ's Avatar
United_States
39
Rep
2,492
Posts

 
Drives: E90 M3 AW
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: FT. Bragg, NC.

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
2007 335i  [4.50]
__________________
OSS AE's/LCI Tails/R1 Concepts C/D Rotors/ER CP/UR CAI/Vossen CV3's/H&R Sports/Koni Yellows/M3 bits
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 07:49 PM   #15
gizmo335i
Colonel
gizmo335i's Avatar
United_States
53
Rep
2,907
Posts

 
Drives: 08 JB E92 335i 6MT
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Antonio

iTrader: (50)

Garage List
2008 E92 335i  [4.73]
I hope you're right Mike.

That washer is pretty thick. I mean...not enough that should make this much of a difference I wouldn't think.

No, I never had race. I had these same springs before and it was not this low in the front.

Hold on, I'm about to upload pics. Had to take care of a crazy three year old....
__________________
JB4 | Vanguard/Quad burnt tips | Linea Corse | Mtech Front/rear | AFE DCI | H&R Sport + Koni yellow | Umnitza Full LED Angels | Akyrm lip/quad diffuser | Alpine CSL CF Trunklid
See Garage for more
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 08:00 PM   #16
gizmo335i
Colonel
gizmo335i's Avatar
United_States
53
Rep
2,907
Posts

 
Drives: 08 JB E92 335i 6MT
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Antonio

iTrader: (50)

Garage List
2008 E92 335i  [4.73]
I don't have time to pull it out of the garage and it's dark out. So these can't show it too well. And don't get me wrong. I love the way it sits. I like low. But something is wrong. I had H&R Sport for damn near two years and it was not this low. And I'm scraping bad. So as much as I like the stance, I hope this comes up a bit after I re-do the front (which is what I'm going to do). At least I haven't taken the compressors back yet.

But I still can't see how this happens. Like I said, I hope you're right Mike.

You can see in my garage that before it was not this low. These pics really don't show how low it's sitting.


__________________
JB4 | Vanguard/Quad burnt tips | Linea Corse | Mtech Front/rear | AFE DCI | H&R Sport + Koni yellow | Umnitza Full LED Angels | Akyrm lip/quad diffuser | Alpine CSL CF Trunklid
See Garage for more
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 08:02 PM   #17
Dr. G
Brigadier General
Dr. G's Avatar
80
Rep
4,958
Posts

 
Drives: Black e92 335i
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Brampton, Ontario

iTrader: (32)

Garage List
e92 BMW 335i  [4.35]
That is DEFINITELYYYYY low for HR Sport Springs
__________________
JB4 / OSS Angel Eyes / Downpipes / F1-Racewerks FMIC / Custom Meth Kit / BMS DCI / ER Chargepipe / HKS BOV / BMS Meth Elbow / BMW Performance Exhaust / Carbon Fiber Inlay Quad Tips / 19" Miro 111 / Front Aero Lip / M3 Sides / VRS CSL Trunk / Mtech Rear / DD CF Quad Finned Diffuser / LCI Tails / BBK / Smoked Reflectors / F1 Euphoria LED Interior / License LED's / GT 5000k Corners / 5000k HID Fogs / Air Scoops / LED Turn Signals / FK Silverline Coilovers / HPA endlinks / Vibrant Resonators / Osram CBI 5000k D1S
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 08:02 PM   #18
Express
Major General
Express's Avatar
Israel
129
Rep
8,701
Posts

 
Drives: 06 330i
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: The Promise Land

iTrader: (17)

Garage List
2006 BMW 330i  [4.15]
looks perfect
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 08:08 PM   #19
gizmo335i
Colonel
gizmo335i's Avatar
United_States
53
Rep
2,907
Posts

 
Drives: 08 JB E92 335i 6MT
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Antonio

iTrader: (50)

Garage List
2008 E92 335i  [4.73]
OK..I understand you think it looks perfect. I think it LOOKS perfect too, lol. But it's not correct...that's the concern..
__________________
JB4 | Vanguard/Quad burnt tips | Linea Corse | Mtech Front/rear | AFE DCI | H&R Sport + Koni yellow | Umnitza Full LED Angels | Akyrm lip/quad diffuser | Alpine CSL CF Trunklid
See Garage for more
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 08:29 PM   #20
edirtaynine
Major General
61
Rep
6,093
Posts

 
Drives: e92
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

damn wth... that is the same height you would get with race springs, not sports! lol
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 09:11 PM   #21
DimSum
Banned
Canada
60
Rep
2,743
Posts

 
Drives: SLOW
Join Date: May 2008
Location: LITTLEBIMMER.COM

iTrader: (10)

looks to me those are race springs not sport springs.
Appreciate 0
      10-11-2011, 09:27 PM   #22
mike-y
just another bmw douche bag
United_States
36
Rep
3,398
Posts

 
Drives: 1.9L of fury
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (4)

yeah, that's pretty low.. I'm not sure if the washer swap would make that much different.. How is the back? and were the front and rear springs the same color?
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:27 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST