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      05-09-2009, 06:19 AM   #67
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Based on this, would you say that this would also be a good mod for an e90/92 M3?
Coilovers, for sure!
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      05-09-2009, 09:59 AM   #68
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Outstanding work Orb, truly ground breaking outside the box thinking on this project.

Well done guys, all you guys, I am a little envious of this jewellery for my M3.
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If one were to replace just the rear camber link and the rear shocks, could we use the camber links with what we already have?

If so, I believe this is what we need:

Rear camber links (2)
33532283888 lower rubber pad (2)
Rear M3 shocks (2)
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      05-14-2009, 12:45 PM   #70
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If one were to replace just the rear camber link and the rear shocks, could we use the camber links with what we already have?

If so, I believe this is what we need:

Rear camber links (2)
33532283888 lower rubber pad (2)
Rear M3 shocks (2)
I think you need M3 rear springs as well
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If one were to replace just the rear camber link and the rear shocks, could we use the camber links with what we already have?

If so, I believe this is what we need:

Rear camber links (2)
33532283888 lower rubber pad (2)
Rear M3 shocks (2)
You can reuse the upper camber link, but the lower camber links are what you will be replacing.

I highly recommend a true coilover type spring and height adjuster be added to this upgrade.
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Bringing this one back from the dead.

Found a good "suspension walkaround" from Edmunds.com on both the M3 and 135i. You can see some of the suspension differences here, and can be useful for some people to visualize the differences:

M3: http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...ound.html#more
135i: http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...alkaround.html
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Bringing this one back from the dead.

Found a good "suspension walkaround" from Edmunds.com on both the M3 and 135i. You can see some of the suspension differences here, and can be useful for some people to visualize the differences:

M3: http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...ound.html#more
135i: http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2...alkaround.html
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I think you need M3 rear springs as well
Actually, the oem 128i/135i/328i/330i/335i springs will work just fine. However, to get the most out of this conversion/upgrade, you should convert to a coilover type spring with the correct rates for your application with ride height adjusters.
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I think you need M3 rear springs as well
Now that you have the rear lower camber link conversion and M3 rear single adjust Koni dampers, how is the whole system working out?
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Just a reminder that the rear headlight aim bracket is not a piece from the M3, it is a custom piece we have engineered. The M3 bracket will NOT work on the non-M cars due to the different rear subframe.
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Any plans to release the toe links orb designed?

EDIT: I know about the rogue and other adjustable arms but I liked the design of orb's better, they were curved like the m3 and had really high end bushings. Did you ever start making those, Harold?
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Any plans to release the toe links orb designed?

EDIT: I know about the rogue and other adjustable arms but I liked the design of orb's better, they were curved like the m3 and had really high end bushings. Did you ever start making those, Harold?
No, those never went into production because the cost. They would have been easily at least twice as much as the RE ones.
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Just a reminder that the rear headlight aim bracket is not a piece from the M3, it is a custom piece we have engineered. The M3 bracket will NOT work on the non-M cars due to the different rear subframe.
Harold, you did not engineer this....you got a CAD file and drawing given to you by me! This will be the last time I will say do not take credit for anything you have not done personally which includes parts and shared technical information.

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Any plans to release the toe links orb designed?

EDIT: I know about the rogue and other adjustable arms but I liked the design of orb's better, they were curved like the m3 and had really high end bushings. Did you ever start making those, Harold?
The newer toe links (30% stiffer) retail for about 525.00 for set if they were made. 80% of the cost are in the bearings and the viton seals...the aluminum links are fairly cheap....even have the M3 logo on them know. They will last the life car raced or not so you get what you pay for. Cheaper bearing are no problem but they will not last more than 1-2 years....cost drops by about 125.00. Cost is based on you proudction run so it goes down accordingly. If a vendor wished to contact me directly it may be possible produce them.

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If you don't want to take credit for anything you have done, that is fine with us, but please read all the threads with credit given when credit is due, including this one!

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