Looks Like BMW Have Played Safe - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

creepy coupe · 10-14-2011, 10:39 AM

The idrive screen looks miles away from the driver

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showth...2#post10609632

Steve A · 10-14-2011, 11:09 AM

bobbins.

magic77 · 10-14-2011, 11:11 AM

facebook group has lot more the new M sport does look very nice, hmm I want to hate it so dont get tempted to buy one but....

MB London · 10-14-2011, 11:42 AM

a grower i guess

Raj59 · 10-14-2011, 12:27 PM

Not too keen on how the front lights are connected to the grille..reminds me of a Honda Civic

nomis_nehc · 10-14-2011, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Raj59

Not too keen on how the front lights are connected to the grille..reminds me of a Honda Civic

Seriously, wtf is going on there.

chris_s1 · 10-14-2011, 12:43 PM

Those pics don't look like the cars in the shots of the masked up cars that were spotted today. Especially the bonnet grooves, or rather lack of in the press pics

colin.smith · 11-16-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

The idrive screen looks miles away from the driver

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showth...2#post10609632

your right i own your old 335

acerboo · 11-16-2011, 11:58 AM

prefer current shape by a mile classic

M3-FAST · 11-16-2011, 02:35 PM

I actually like the new shape and really like the new interior, however is it just me that thinks the roofline and window frames are identical to the old E90?

If that is indeed the case, then how 'new' actually is this car? Or is it just an old E90 with a new front/rear end and interior?!

dopper99 · 11-16-2011, 04:24 PM

One thing I DO like about the F30 - it appears to have a NORMAL HANDBRAKE

and not a crappy switch effort like they fit to so many new cars now. My mate has a switch on his Insignia and cant get on with it and it keeps switching off when he dont want it to.

creepy coupe · 11-17-2011, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by M3-FAST

is it just me that thinks the roofline and window frames are identical to the old E90?

If that is indeed the case, then how 'new' actually is this car? Or is it just an old E90 with a new front/rear end and interior?!

Not just you, I thought the very same thing.

xenon · 11-17-2011, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by dopper99

One thing I DO like about the F30 - it appears to have a NORMAL HANDBRAKE

and not a crappy switch effort like they fit to so many new cars now. My mate has a switch on his Insignia and cant get on with it and it keeps switching off when he dont want it to.

I can't understand why people can't get on with these instead of yanking on a ratchet spring-loaded handle, exactly as on the Model T Ford. Admittedly the one in the Passat is shit but the 5-series one is a piece of piss - on or off, what could be easier? Plus with hill-hold you can't really fcuk it up. Unless you're a bit dim.

mv57 · 11-17-2011, 03:48 AM

the cross angled front bumper reminds me of the A4 s line. Jury is out for the interior.

creepy coupe · 11-17-2011, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by xenon

I can't understand why people can't get on with these instead of yanking on a ratchet spring-loaded handle, exactly as on the Model T Ford. Admittedly the one in the Passat is shit but the 5-series one is a piece of piss - on or off, what could be easier? Plus with hill-hold you can't really fcuk it up. Unless you're a bit dim.

What's it like for handbrake turns Ian?

KadeSdad · 11-17-2011, 04:00 AM

Looks wise its ok, a bit dated maybe with an 'overs forties' look to it. Its a shame BMW can't be as bold as Mercedes have been over the past few years.

xenon · 11-17-2011, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

What's it like for handbrake turns Ian?

harsh

Jon D · 11-17-2011, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

What's it like for handbrake turns Ian?

On the assumption that it's the same system as fitted to the F12, no problem at all - my F10 was in for a small warranty fix recently and the dealer gave me a 640i convertible as a loaner. It was a sunny day and, thinking it would be nice to open the top, I slowed to 20/25mph and pulled the roof switch - at least that was what I thought I was doing. Imagine my 'surprise' when the rear wheels suddenly locked up

, I'd pulled the handbrake switch instead of the roof one

.
Three thoughts occurred to me:- 1. I thought the car had to be stationary in order to operate the handbrake, 2. I thought you had to have your foot on the brake pedal beforehand, 3. the two switches should be further apart and have a different tactile feel.
So there you go: for those who feel the need to pull handbrake turns - no problem.

xenon · 11-17-2011, 05:56 AM

I've never tried this in mine but the handbook says something along the lines of "operating the handbrake switch in motion will cause the car to brake extremely hard (emergency braking) but ABS is still active" - to imply it won't lock the wheels, but I'm not in the mood to try it....

Jon D · 11-17-2011, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xenon

...but I'm not in the mood to try it....

Definitely not to be recommended, at least not in your own car

I'm sure I've tried applying the handbrake in my F10 whilst stationary, but without my foot on the brake and I seem to recall that it didn't work. I'll be going out later and will repeat the exercise and let you know.
I'll soon be taking a 640d coupé for a demo and will try it on the move, albeit at a slow speed and in an 'anticipatory' frame of mind...

xenon · 11-17-2011, 06:29 AM

In my F10 you can definitely apply the handbrake without having your foot on the brake (mine's manual) as I've done it when rolling to a stop. Might well be different in an auto.

Jon D · 11-17-2011, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by xenon

In my F10 you can definitely apply the handbrake without having your foot on the brake (mine's manual) as I've done it when rolling to a stop. Might well be different in an auto.

Manual/auto might well be the answer - I'll try mine in park and neutral and see what happens.

10-14-2011, 10:39 AM	#1
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10-14-2011, 11:09 AM	#2
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11-16-2011, 02:35 PM	#10
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10-14-2011, 11:42 AM	#4
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10-14-2011, 12:27 PM	#5
Raj59 BMW Miniature Collector! Drives: E92 330i SE A Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 4,086 iTrader: (0)	Not too keen on how the front lights are connected to the grille..reminds me of a Honda Civic

11-16-2011, 11:58 AM	#9
acerboo Colonel Drives: e92 335d lci Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: kent Posts: 2,964 iTrader: (0)	prefer current shape by a mile classic

11-16-2011, 04:24 PM	#11
dopper99 Major Drives: 2011 330d LCI M Sport Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: UK Posts: 1,410 iTrader: (1)	One thing I DO like about the F30 - it appears to have a NORMAL HANDBRAKE and not a crappy switch effort like they fit to so many new cars now. My mate has a switch on his Insignia and cant get on with it and it keeps switching off when he dont want it to.

11-17-2011, 03:48 AM	#14
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11-17-2011, 04:00 AM	#16
KadeSdad Colonel Drives: E350 CDI Sport Cabriolet Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: UK Posts: 2,072 iTrader: (3)	Looks wise its ok, a bit dated maybe with an 'overs forties' look to it. Its a shame BMW can't be as bold as Mercedes have been over the past few years.

11-17-2011, 05:56 AM	#19
xenon Brigadier General Drives: 2013 F10 520d M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry Posts: 4,251 iTrader: (0)	I've never tried this in mine but the handbook says something along the lines of "operating the handbrake switch in motion will cause the car to brake extremely hard (emergency braking) but ABS is still active" - to imply it won't lock the wheels, but I'm not in the mood to try it.... __________________ Ian Current: 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, Professional Media, Visibility Pack, Reversing Camera, DAB Previous: 2011 F10 520d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2

11-17-2011, 06:29 AM	#21
xenon Brigadier General Drives: 2013 F10 520d M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Coventry Posts: 4,251 iTrader: (0)	In my F10 you can definitely apply the handbrake without having your foot on the brake (mine's manual) as I've done it when rolling to a stop. Might well be different in an auto. __________________ Ian Current: 2013 F10 520d M-Sport, Professional Media, Visibility Pack, Reversing Camera, DAB Previous: 2011 F10 520d M-Sport, 2008 320i M-Sport Coupe, 2002 325i, 2001 318i valvetronic, 1998 318i, 1996 525i, 1990 Porsche 944S2

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