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11-20-2011, 11:35 AM | #67 | |
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There are vbox results showing stock S-Tronics doing 0-100mph in 8.3s (which is about the best that was got with manual remapped cars) and with a remap 7.4s which is mental. This car is regularly at Crail, the last time it was there it did 11.65 @ 119.7mph with 410hp. |
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11-20-2011, 11:36 AM | #68 | |
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Of course the results will vary due to different testing protocols, a quick look at 335i 0-100mph acceleration tests, anywhere from to 12,1 from AutoZeitung to 13,0s from Sport Auto for the same transmission. Last edited by conneem-TT; 11-20-2011 at 11:48 AM.. |
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11-20-2011, 11:43 AM | #69 | |
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http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...2.5-RS/242577/ 11.4 secs in the above test. Granted not fancy gearbox but no chance it gains that much time. Again 100mph in 7.4secs and takes 4.2 seconds to gain another 19mph? Performance will drop off the faster you go but that's a huge huge drop off. Too much to make that figure accurate. It would also be quicker than any other 410bhp car and even a Nissan GTR. Obviously you are a TT fan boy but you are beyond hopeful. |
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The difference between 12.1 secs 13 secs is big enough.
The difference between 11.4 to 9.4 is a totally different planet to each other. The faster the car the harder it is to shave off tenths, not 2 full seconds. As said before that's over a 20mph speed differential for the quicker one hitting 100mph. |
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11-20-2011, 12:00 PM | #74 | |
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Here is the Vbox graph |
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11-20-2011, 12:03 PM | #75 |
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It's 3 changes with the RS's gearing, it doesn't have the nice long gear BMW use
and also the double cluth holds boost in between the changes. Here is a manual TTRS accelerating, notice the ~0.3-0.4s lost in each change vs the smooth acceleration of the S-Tronic above |
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11-20-2011, 12:08 PM | #76 | |
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So it gets to 100mph in 7.4 secs, takes another 4.2 secs to find another 19mph but only 0.8 secs to find the next 11 mph? Does not work out does it? |
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11-20-2011, 12:16 PM | #77 | |
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That is one thing the TTRS really suffers from, excessive intake temps and it has a measurable effect on it's performance. |
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11-20-2011, 12:29 PM | #78 |
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So you rekon a 340HP TTRS will do the same 0-100mph as a 480+ (they alll come out the factory with 500Hp) GT-R?!
No way would 410HP 4wd audi trap At 119mph. That's a Mis reading. That's less HP at the wheels than an M3 which traps at 108-110mph
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11-20-2011, 12:35 PM | #79 |
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4wd cars do very well at Crail. It seems to offer the right level of grip and Scooby and EVO drivers I know prefer it.
I guessed it was not the same run but again there is huge variance. The car is travelling 10 mph faster with the vbox figures. That's a lot of power to gain that amount. No chance heat would make that difference. |
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11-20-2011, 12:53 PM | #81 | |
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Here are the results from a 30-130 event last year, there was one manual TTRS there and it had an full Milltek exhaust and remap, not too far off the standard GT-R's that attended, add in S-Tronic and there is not much in it at all. http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8869/other30130.gif |
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11-20-2011, 12:54 PM | #82 |
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Yep, here are the most recent ones
http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showdr...ate=2011-10-30 and here is a JB4 335i from the same day http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/showdr...ate=2011-10-30 you can see from this post the surface isn't the best http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=19 Last edited by conneem-TT; 11-20-2011 at 01:08 PM.. |
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11-20-2011, 01:06 PM | #83 |
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Sorry about deviating from the 335i debate but as someone who has just gone from M3 (which is slightly quicker than a 1M) to TT-RS S-Tronic I think you will find for the average driver (Me) the RS is the quicker of the two alright a good Driver will probably get an M3 round a track quicker than a TT but for as mere mortals in everyday use the RS is easier to drive fast from A to B
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Mate 8.3 is what a new GT-R does to 100. Your implying a 410HP TT can match it.
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11-20-2011, 01:30 PM | #86 | |
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11-20-2011, 01:33 PM | #87 | |
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I think its a bit of a close one ... e92 M3 v/s TTRS (Probably the M3 would be faster on track) 335i v/s TTS |
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11-20-2011, 01:41 PM | #88 | |
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