Is it worth it???

335_MI6 · 12-02-2011, 06:43 PM

Selling/giving away/trashing my jb4 for a cobb tune? I understand cobb is around $800 but is it worth it for me (someone with a tune) to get it.

Stucks · 12-02-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 335_MI6

Selling/giving away/trashing my jb4 for a cobb tune? I understand cobb is around $800 but is it worth it for me (someone with a tune) to get it.

Give me your JB4 for free, so i can sell it, then you can go buy the cobb tune

Laid Black 335i · 12-02-2011, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 335_MI6

Selling/giving away/trashing my jb4 for a cobb tune? I understand cobb is around $800 but is it worth it for me (someone with a tune) to get it.

I just got the Cobb AP for Black Friday and I did not pay $800 for it

335_MI6 · 12-02-2011, 09:59 PM

Once again, IS IT WORTH IT??????

Laid Black 335i · 12-02-2011, 10:17 PM

If you were in my position (no tune at all), Cobb is a great choice. But since you already have JB4, there's really no point in switching over to Cobb.

boom · 12-02-2011, 10:38 PM

I think with the Cobb you're buying a safer tune. Worth it if you're keeping the car IMO.

Tuner1984 · 12-02-2011, 11:02 PM

If you need a Cobb lemme know I can get it at a good price.

utfenix335i · 12-03-2011, 12:29 AM

Keep JB4 and buy Cobb. I know Lance was talking about running both. JB4 for dash override and Cobb for the solid tune.

Stucks · 12-03-2011, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by utfenix335i

Keep JB4 and buy Cobb. I know Lance was talking about running both. JB4 for dash override and Cobb for the solid tune.

yup. dzenno runs this setup i think. What you should really do Allen, is sell the range rover and buy everything possible for your 335xi.....since you are made of money

bigdog34uz · 12-03-2011, 09:15 AM

JB4 FTW!

cotmfk · 12-03-2011, 10:28 AM

Not worth it, IMO.

cotmfk · 12-03-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by boom

I think with the Cobb you're buying a safer tune. Worth it if you're keeping the car IMO.

Not saying you're wrong or right, but... Proof?

utfenix335i · 12-03-2011, 05:45 PM

Well, I've heard Boom's argument. IIRC, his argument was that piggieback systems basically override the system (forcing stock tune to stay at the same point longer in the power band) rather than Cobb/GIAC/etc that actually replaces the stock tune with a tune specific for the car. But I could be mistaken.

bigdaddycane · 12-03-2011, 10:48 PM

COBB, Procede and JB4 are all good tunes....each has subtle advantages/disadvantages to each other....safety has proved to be a NON issue for piggybacks....the BMW ignition safeguards work very, very well.

The JB4 continues to get better and better....I have owned since the JB3 and the tune continues to impress me. Terry is constantly improving the firmware which can be felt.

Eric the Ricer · 12-04-2011, 01:38 AM

Hook me up with that JB4! I'll shake your hand

boom · 12-04-2011, 07:37 AM

Cobb makes the same power with a richer a/f and less timing and similar boost. I believe part of their success is due to banks manipulation which will help the head flow better essentially improving the volumetric efficiency of the engine to achieve the result. The piggies don't touch the valve timing so they are at a disadvantage. Additionally they cannot manipulate injector pulse width and so run out of fuel close to 500 whp. Cobb can manipulate ipw so hopefully there is more potential there.

flip4335 · 12-04-2011, 09:16 AM

335_MI6 · 12-04-2011, 10:40 AM

This is what lance was talking about...http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14469

I really don't understanding anything about logging but if someone can make this out and tell me in dumb term I will be greatly appreciative. This is probably a stupid question can you use a single cobb tune on a number of cars? Like for instance I buy cobb tune and let lance use it because I don't understand this jb4/cobb together thing and later use it on my car, or if that works ill pay someone with the cobb to tune my car.

335TWNTURBO · 12-04-2011, 11:16 AM

It will work but u have to uninstall it from the car before it can be installed on another car.

Stucks · 12-04-2011, 12:59 PM

You can only use the cobb accessport on one car at a time allen. If you went to sell the car though, the cobb accessport can be removed and sold to someone else who could use it. While you are using it though, it can not be used on other vehicles.

Apogee · 12-04-2011, 01:01 PM

I would say stick with the JB-4, cobbs tune is just too conservative but to each its own

Verbiage · 12-06-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Stucks

yup. dzenno runs this setup i think. What you should really do Allen, is sell the range rover and buy everything possible for your 335xi.....since you are made of money

lol.

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Laid Black 335i BMW 71 Rep 974 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i (6MT) Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: MD iTrader: (7)	If you were in my position (no tune at all), Cobb is a great choice. But since you already have JB4, there's really no point in switching over to Cobb. __________________
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boom My X5d tows my spec miata to the track. 74 Rep 1,254 Posts Drives: 2010 X5 35d Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I think with the Cobb you're buying a safer tune. Worth it if you're keeping the car IMO.
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utfenix335i Colonel 135 Rep 1,999 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i; 2015 X5 50i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Rockville, MD iTrader: (11) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [10.00]	Keep JB4 and buy Cobb. I know Lance was talking about running both. JB4 for dash override and Cobb for the solid tune.
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cotmfk Major General 2050 Rep 6,110 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Somewhere between DC and FL iTrader: (12)	Not worth it, IMO. __________________ When you say impact instead of affect/effect, you are communicating that you don't understand the difference between the two words, and are too lazy to learn.
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utfenix335i Colonel 135 Rep 1,999 Posts Drives: 2007 E92 335i; 2015 X5 50i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Rockville, MD iTrader: (11) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [10.00]	Well, I've heard Boom's argument. IIRC, his argument was that piggieback systems basically override the system (forcing stock tune to stay at the same point longer in the power band) rather than Cobb/GIAC/etc that actually replaces the stock tune with a tune specific for the car. But I could be mistaken.
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boom My X5d tows my spec miata to the track. 74 Rep 1,254 Posts Drives: 2010 X5 35d Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Cobb makes the same power with a richer a/f and less timing and similar boost. I believe part of their success is due to banks manipulation which will help the head flow better essentially improving the volumetric efficiency of the engine to achieve the result. The piggies don't touch the valve timing so they are at a disadvantage. Additionally they cannot manipulate injector pulse width and so run out of fuel close to 500 whp. Cobb can manipulate ipw so hopefully there is more potential there.
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335_MI6 Colonel 115 Rep 2,486 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: May 2011 Location: DC/MIAMI/LONDON iTrader: (4)	This is what lance was talking about...http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14469 I really don't understanding anything about logging but if someone can make this out and tell me in dumb term I will be greatly appreciative. This is probably a stupid question can you use a single cobb tune on a number of cars? Like for instance I buy cobb tune and let lance use it because I don't understand this jb4/cobb together thing and later use it on my car, or if that works ill pay someone with the cobb to tune my car.
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335TWNTURBO Captain 54 Rep 740 Posts Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: MARYLAND iTrader: (0)	It will work but u have to uninstall it from the car before it can be installed on another car.
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Stucks Lieutenant Colonel 172 Rep 1,909 Posts Drives: 2017 F30 340i Xdrive Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Montgomery County, MD iTrader: (12)	You can only use the cobb accessport on one car at a time allen. If you went to sell the car though, the cobb accessport can be removed and sold to someone else who could use it. While you are using it though, it can not be used on other vehicles. __________________ Current: 2017 F30 340i xdrive Previous: 2008 e92 335i coupe: RB turbos, mach 116 race fuel, methanol, alot of boost. Previous: 2003 Honda Accord V6 coupe: AEM V2, zex 75 wet shot (sold)
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Apogee Second Lieutenant 3 Rep 232 Posts Drives: 335d/Lancer Evolution X Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Olympia, Washington iTrader: (1)	I would say stick with the JB-4, cobbs tune is just too conservative but to each its own __________________ Zu bestrafen und zu versklaven
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