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      01-09-2012, 06:48 PM   #67

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      01-09-2012, 07:47 PM   #68
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      01-09-2012, 08:37 PM   #69

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      01-09-2012, 10:56 PM   #70
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Originally Posted by jjojo2004 View Post
I don't think that matters at all--the fact that it's a BMW drifting and burning rubber on a nationally televised TV commercial speaks VOLUMES!!!
Yeah, but I think maybe just the GT-2 with it saying "we dont build race cars", and then a standard m3 with the "we don't make sports cars"
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      01-10-2012, 06:07 AM   #71

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+1 living not in the past

disagree, I think the F10 M5 is much better than the E60 in every aspect.
hahaha i will have to wait and hear the F10 for myself then
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      01-10-2012, 03:36 PM   #72

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      01-11-2012, 01:06 AM   #73
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Originally Posted by PKumarM3 View Post
i respect your opinion. i think porsche has somewhat faltered, just how bmw has over the years. but porsche still offers the option of a true sports car - gt3.

i also respect that you owned a legend - the NSX - still a car that i dream of owning. sad to hear of your troubles with the car.

what you describe is what makes the m3 a great car to get. it offers sports car performance but has the space to accommodate a small family safely.

i believe that Porsche still offers 27 models just so it can satisfy the hard core enthusiasts (GT3) to the ridiculously hot trophy wife that wants a Porsche convertible automatic with AWD. (C4 dpk cabriolet)
Thanks - I didn't actually have "trouble" with the NSX, regular maintainence + insuring it all year was just getting to be too much for not ever driving it. I actually do miss it. I looked into a 997 Carrera S before settling on the e92 M3. I actually did like it alot and I do think its more refined than the M3 (Steering and Shifter especially), but I honestly hate the stigma that goes with a Porsche:

"Whats a the difference between a Porsche and a Cactus? With the Porsche, the prick is on the inside..."

I am 28 and I don't I want to be put into the "Pompous and in my 50's -- so I am entitled..." crowd with the Porsche owners in my area.

While I do believe the Carrera S to be a better performer than the M3, it performs better than the M3 for the relative price. The extra 20k in the the sticker price was well reflected in its refinement... Up until the introduction of the GTR, the M3 was the best bang for buck for under 100k. The GTR has its issues as well though, the interior just plain sucks. Maybe I have grown up, but I prefer my "sports cars" to have leather and butt warmers, and heated mirrors. It gets cold out there =-).
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      01-11-2012, 11:21 AM   #74
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The greatest BMW commercial of all-time was the one for the E39 M5, where it is "filming" a land rocket shooting across the desert floor. Absolutely brilliant idea.

As for the debate about whether BMW makes sports cars, my only response would be for all practical purposes the M3 is as much of a sports car as 98% of consumers would ever need. I mean what can a Porsche/Ferrari/Lambo do that an M3 can't? If you're talking about true set your hair on fire bhp then I would introduce you to the Corvette ZR1 which in a straight line drag race beat a Porsche and a Ferrari, however, I hear the same argument made about 'vettes: they're muscle cars and not true sports cars.

When you consider the other end of the economic spectrum, no one would vigorously dispute that the Miata and Honda S2000 are "sports cars" but neither one of them is ever going to win a drag race. For that matter neither would the NSX in its heyday with a whopping 270 bhp and it is a legendary sports car.

I get really tired of the whole true "sports car" debate because at the end of the day you're just splitting hairs!

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      01-12-2012, 02:16 PM   #75
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Originally Posted by Gator328i View Post
I hear the same argument made about 'vettes: they're muscle cars and not true sports cars.

Where do you hear these things?

The Corvette is in no way, shape, or form a muscle car.
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FINALLY! i have plenty of "joy" in my life.. wat i need is more ultimate driving machines
totally agree whit you. well said!
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