[dxb335d]

3 dead and 50 missing= not good.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16558910

[acerboo]

youd think theyd have enough electronic gizmos now to prevent this happening

[peterg1965]

Navigation fuck up and human error. I would stake my pension on it. Blasé Watchkeeping as well probably.

[Kerr]

3 dead and reporting 70 still unaccounted for.

Totally bizarre accident. It's not as if it was difficult to see the rocks.

The expert on the news said it could take between 6-12 months to work out what went wrong.

Is it really that hard to work it out?

[scooba0010]

Some one is going to be in so much shit £450m boat fucked up possibly 70 drowned missing , Did i hear it was only 2 hrs into the cruise

[TMP]

Just watched this on news...seemed to take along time to take everyone off the ship. If they were not so close to the coast, it could have been a lot worse....

[mjh93sa]

Originally Posted by Kerr

3 dead and reporting 70 still unaccounted for.

Totally bizarre accident. It's not as if it was difficult to see the rocks.

The expert on the news said it could take between 6-12 months to work out what went wrong.

Is it really that hard to work it out?

What happened is the easy bit. The why, and the chain of events that led to it is the thing that will take time.

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by mjh93sa

What happened is the easy bit. The why, and the chain of events that led to it is the thing that will take time.

6 to 12 months to investigate if they lost power, navigation systems went wrong and/or the captain his team were not paying any attention.

Surely it can't be too hard?

Down to 40 unaccounted for with no further deaths.

[peterg1965]

Originally Posted by Kerr

6 to 12 months to investigate if they lost power, navigation systems went wrong and/or the captain his team were not paying any attention.

Surely it can't be too hard?

Down to 40 unaccounted for with no further deaths.

As a professional mariner, I am pretty sure that the cause of the incident will be investigated and reported in a short space of time, whether it is publicly revealed, when criminal proceeding may result, is another matter. I cannot believe it will take 6-12 months. Herald of Free Enterprise, back in 1987, did not take that long to investigate and that was more complicated in my view.

There will be lots of speculation, but what I cannot understand is, if power was lost, why the ship did not anchor before getting perilously close to navigational danger.

The hole ripped in the hull by those rocks, would seem to indicate that the ship was still making significant headway when it struck.

[Carrera RSR]

clearly the driver was pissed

[dxb335d]

Maybe he was Getting sucked off?

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Maybe he was Getting sucked off?

Nah, the waters looked still.

[AlanQS]

It's over 116,000 tonnes. How are they going to remove it?

There aren't any cranes that can haul that thing up. I presume, patch the holes, pump the water out and hope it re-floats?

The Titanic was a tiny ship next to this thing...

[acerboo]

made me laugh they said the captain left the ship before most of the passengers

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by AlanQS

It's over 116,000 tonnes. How are they going to remove it?

There aren't any cranes that can haul that thing up. I presume, patch the holes, pump the water out and hope it re-floats?

The Titanic was a tiny ship next to this thing...

Surely no chance of recovery?!

Will need to be cut up maybe?!

[scooba0010]

I would think it can be salvaged . If the weather is good for then it could be done .

I work next to TITAN salvages yard and they have the kit to sort it out and the expertise have a look on there web site , American company that has its base in ft lauderdale

[peterg1965]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Surely no chance of recovery?!

Will need to be cut up maybe?!

It will be a huge salvage job if it is possible. Suspect there will be lots of marine diesel on board too.

[dxb335d]

How will they get it out?

[scooba0010]

SMIT the huge Dutch salvage company have secured the salvage / Removal of Oil from the Ship , It would be interesting to watch the operation .

[peterg1965]

Originally Posted by scooba0010

SMIT the huge Dutch salvage company have secured the salvage / Removal of Oil from the Ship , It would be interesting to watch the operation .

Good bit of intel there Scooba, where did you get that from? I think they were the company who where involved in the salvage of the Russian "Kursk" submarine ten years ago. If they can salvage a sunken 20,000 tonne submarine, this will be a walk in the park, and they will make a lot of money.

[sheps]

Originally Posted by peterg1965

Good bit of intel there Scooba, where did you get that from? I think they were the company who where involved in the salvage of the Russian "Kursk" submarine ten years ago. If they can salvage a sunken 20,000 tonne submarine, this will be a walk in the park, and they will make a lot of money.

Am I right in thinking that marine salvage co's work on a percentage of the value of what they recover? I'm sure I read that in an interview with a marine salvage company owner?

[peterg1965]

Originally Posted by sheps

Am I right in thinking that marine salvage co's work on a percentage of the value of what they recover? I'm sure I read that in an interview with a marine salvage company owner?

Sheps, there are complex laws governing salvage, if the Company have "salvage rights" then there is a lot of money to be made. I guess that they will have a very lucrative contract with the vessel owner's though.