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tscdennab · 01-20-2012, 10:43 AM

So what is the current state of the Cobb tune for RB Turbos ? Does anyone run the alpha version (or whatever version is the newest) ? It is stable enough ? Any fueling problems ? Any dyno numbers ?

Yodaime · 01-21-2012, 05:35 PM

335is here, day 2 with the Cobb. Stage 2+FMIC Aggresive ST, seems to run perfectly fine with my setup. FBO, no meth or aftermarket turbos. I've been pouring 93 octane in this car since day 1. I came from a JB4 and it has changed my back. <- As in it throws me in the trunk when I gun it from 60-130.

Yodaime · 01-21-2012, 05:40 PM

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Unfortunately no, still waiting on my vanos solenoid and hope that fixes it, that's why I haven't updated my thread yet.

What I did find out thought that cylinder 2-5 is always happy and cylinder 6 sometime would have a drop but cylinder 1 always has a drop on every log I have done.

I am still using the same gas, all the other gas gives me worst timing.

I am going to log the sport map and see if it makes any difference. Probably doesn't help that ambient temperature is at 45C (113F).

In regards to the sport map - I had a bit of a drive on the way home and it definitely doesn't have that big of a punch on the mid range as the aggressive maps.

As someone else says on the aggressive map the car goes "ape shit"

Also another question about the 0-100 function, how do people normally launch their AT cars? first gear ? or second gear brake boosting? or just DS and slam it down?

Been playing around with it and it seems the fastest I can do is about 4.7s.

Lucky we have Launch Control with our DCT, but Have to play with it because having to launch at 5k can normaly cause problems with the FBO now lol, like breaking an axle or dropping the tranny lol. I launch at 2k with street tires. Maybe 3500 with my new slicks coming on.

If your doing a roll race then Brake Boosting would be not 100% pointless but not good for our cars. Turbo kicks in at around 1250-1300 rpm till redline but unless you put your foot all the way down. That full boost wont kick in. So having to brake boost to warm up the 17-18psi or whatever is your max to get that pull at a 40 or 60 roll is pretty useful, But im not gonna do it everyday lols.

RnmEvo9 · 01-21-2012, 06:00 PM

Dumb question, but can the Cobb AP identify my ECU even if it is installed in another vehicle? I don't even care to upload any maps or datalog, I just want to find out what kind of ECU that I have even though the AP is installed in my friends car, or does he have to uninstall it?

Thanks!

enrita · 01-21-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RnmEvo9

Dumb question, but can the Cobb AP identify my ECU even if it is installed in another vehicle? I don't even care to upload any maps or datalog, I just want to find out what kind of ECU that I have even though the AP is installed in my friends car, or does he have to uninstall it?

Thanks!

you need to uninstall it.

RnmEvo9 · 01-21-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by enrita

you need to uninstall it.

Thanks for the quick response.

mithiral67 · 01-21-2012, 07:08 PM

Hooked up my cobb, went inside while it flashed to stage 2+, came back, car was upside down on its roof. Is that normal? Do i have the right map?

rader1 · 01-21-2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mithiral67

Hooked up my cobb, went inside while it flashed to stage 2+, came back, car was upside down on its roof. Is that normal? Do i have the right map?

Depends on your ECU. i had no issues with I8AOS, but it was a problem with older ROMs.

mithiral67 · 01-21-2012, 07:31 PM

ha, i knew it.

BuraQ · 01-21-2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Yodaime

Lucky we have Launch Control with our DCT, but Have to play with it because having to launch at 5k can normaly cause problems with the FBO now lol, like breaking an axle or dropping the tranny lol. I launch at 2k with street tires. Maybe 3500 with my new slicks coming on............

Nice hear you are launching at lower RPMs now

Jeef · 01-21-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Yodaime

If your doing a roll race then Brake Boosting would be not 100% pointless but not good for our cars. Turbo kicks in at around 1250-1300 rpm till redline but unless you put your foot all the way down. That full boost wont kick in. So having to brake boost to warm up the 17-18psi or whatever is your max to get that pull at a 40 or 60 roll is pretty useful, But im not gonna do it everyday lols.

I am confused at what you are saying... Isn't brake boosting starting from a complete stop not a roll? such as M2 hold brake, rev to 2.5k - 3.5k.

rader1 · 01-21-2012, 08:59 PM

Brake boosting is when you are rolling and press the brakes and press the gas harder in order to maintain a set speed in order to load up the turbo. Not necessary on these cars IMO

Jeef · 01-21-2012, 09:06 PM

I don't think its necessary for our cars either on rolls

Lulz_M3 · 01-22-2012, 09:55 AM

Brake boosting on any turbo platform isn't *necessary* but it does give an advantage. Would you rather be at 8+ psi of boost when you start your race or 0? Sure it may only take 1 second to achieve target boost but that could be the difference between someone jumping a hood out in front of you.

rader1 · 01-22-2012, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lulz_M3

Brake boosting on any turbo platform isn't *necessary* but it does give an advantage. Would you rather be at 8+ psi of boost when you start your race or 0? Sure it may only take 1 second to achieve target boost but that could be the difference between someone jumping a hood out in front of you.

Assuming you're over 3KRPM it will build boost nearly instantly. Besides, can we brake boost these cars? I know a lot of ETC cars ovvveride throttle input when it sees you press the brakes. IDK if the MSD80 does this or not.

Jeef · 01-22-2012, 12:09 PM

^ yes 3k rpm is where you should be at starting from a 40 - 60 mph roll.. well if your in the right gear, so brake boosting doesn't really give an advantage, IMO. Also is launching the car by holding the brake in M1 or M2 and revving to 3.5k bad for the car at a complete stop?

rader1 · 01-22-2012, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeef

^ yes 3k rpm is where you should be at starting from a 40 - 60 mph roll.. well if your in the right gear, so brake boosting doesn't really give an advantage, IMO. Also is launching the car by holding the brake in M1 or M2 and revving to 3.5k bad for the car at a complete stop?

Yes, launching the car from a stop is bad for it. However, there are people that do it dozens(or hundreds) of times and have seen no ill effects. I heard of a few xi drivetrain breakages, but the normal RWD layout seems VERY sturdy. I wouldn't risk it because if you're very unluck and something does break it will be very expensive to fix.
Of coarse, if you have crappy tires the car will just roast 'em lol

Lulz_M3 · 01-22-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rader1

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Originally Posted by Lulz_M3

Brake boosting on any turbo platform isn't *necessary* but it does give an advantage. Would you rather be at 8+ psi of boost when you start your race or 0? Sure it may only take 1 second to achieve target boost but that could be the difference between someone jumping a hood out in front of you.

Assuming you're over 3KRPM it will build boost nearly instantly. Besides, can we brake boost these cars? I know a lot of ETC cars ovvveride throttle input when it sees you press the brakes. IDK if the MSD80 does this or not.

I'm 6mt so I'm not sure about the auto's reaction but give it a shot. Trust me, it makes a difference.

vadim83 · 01-22-2012, 03:30 PM

is there any dyno comparos with proceed v5? I'm assuming stage2+ aggressive map..

Jeef · 01-22-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rader1

Yes, launching the car from a stop is bad for it. However, there are people that do it dozens(or hundreds) of times and have seen no ill effects. I heard of a few xi drivetrain breakages, but the normal RWD layout seems VERY sturdy. I wouldn't risk it because if you're very unluck and something does break it will be very expensive to fix.
Of coarse, if you have crappy tires the car will just roast 'em lol

I've done it a couple times revving to 3.5k so i am safe for now! hopefully..

rader1 · 01-22-2012, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vadim83

is there any dyno comparos with proceed v5? I'm assuming stage2+ aggressive map..

Tune+meth setup should be similar to a stage 2+ FBO car. There is a video of clap/laloosh/asshat(or whatever screen name he has now) running stage 2+ against jeff@topgearsolutions and his V5+meth car. Its pretty close but the cobb car pulls just a little each time. Keep in mind it's 135 vs 335.

Jeef · 01-22-2012, 04:25 PM

Any updates from cobb on when race fuel maps or meth maps will be out?

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01-20-2012, 10:43 AM	#3389
tscdennab Banned Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Europe Posts: 1,811 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW [3.12]	So what is the current state of the Cobb tune for RB Turbos ? Does anyone run the alpha version (or whatever version is the newest) ? It is stable enough ? Any fueling problems ? Any dyno numbers ?
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01-21-2012, 06:00 PM	#3392
RnmEvo9 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL Posts: 1,665 iTrader: (2)	Dumb question, but can the Cobb AP identify my ECU even if it is installed in another vehicle? I don't even care to upload any maps or datalog, I just want to find out what kind of ECU that I have even though the AP is installed in my friends car, or does he have to uninstall it? Thanks!
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01-21-2012, 07:08 PM	#3395
mithiral67 That guy Drives: mineral white 335is coupe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 5,552 iTrader: (4)	Hooked up my cobb, went inside while it flashed to stage 2+, came back, car was upside down on its roof. Is that normal? Do i have the right map?
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01-21-2012, 07:31 PM	#3397
mithiral67 That guy Drives: mineral white 335is coupe Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 5,552 iTrader: (4)	ha, i knew it.
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01-21-2012, 08:59 PM	#3400
rader1 Banned Drives: Cobb Stage 2+ 135i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 2,197 iTrader: (0)	Brake boosting is when you are rolling and press the brakes and press the gas harder in order to maintain a set speed in order to load up the turbo. Not necessary on these cars IMO
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01-21-2012, 09:06 PM	#3401
Jeef Captain Drives: AW E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 759 iTrader: (1)	I don't think its necessary for our cars either on rolls
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01-22-2012, 09:55 AM	#3402
Lulz_M3 Banned Drives: AW 335i 6MT Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Jax, Fl Posts: 1,029 iTrader: (0)	Brake boosting on any turbo platform isn't necessary but it does give an advantage. Would you rather be at 8+ psi of boost when you start your race or 0? Sure it may only take 1 second to achieve target boost but that could be the difference between someone jumping a hood out in front of you.
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Jeef Captain Drives: AW E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 759 iTrader: (1)	^ yes 3k rpm is where you should be at starting from a 40 - 60 mph roll.. well if your in the right gear, so brake boosting doesn't really give an advantage, IMO. Also is launching the car by holding the brake in M1 or M2 and revving to 3.5k bad for the car at a complete stop?
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01-22-2012, 03:30 PM	#3407
vadim83 Enlisted Member Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: SPb Posts: 41 iTrader: (0)	is there any dyno comparos with proceed v5? I'm assuming stage2+ aggressive map..
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01-22-2012, 04:25 PM	#3410
Jeef Captain Drives: AW E92 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 759 iTrader: (1)	Any updates from cobb on when race fuel maps or meth maps will be out?
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