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      01-18-2012, 05:26 PM   #1
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ETS 5" FMIC ll Review..w/ IAT's

Ok, as you may have seen in another earlier thread. after cleaning and freshing up my ETS IC.. And performaing a DIY home pressure boost leak test, and everything coming out good, i installed my ETS 5" FMIC today

Install was done on a 2010 E90 LCI 335i N54 M-sport..

The FMIC itself measures in at 20x5.5x5...
ETS has been known for its quality and R&D in there products. So i was happy to go with them from the begining.. And this FMIC shows, welds are nice, comes with a nice fin pack and staggered fin pack which is nice!! They have had a nice track record with there products and there IC's, quality for the N54 was right on par.

I didnt weight the IC myself but i can def say its about 3x heavier then the stock IC..

REMOVING THE OEM FMIC.
Taking out the oem FMIC, took me about 15-20 mins..
Removing the big plastic undertray, removing the small palstic cover under the OEM FMIC.

Removing the stock charge up pipe from the FMIC to the DV charge pipe, was a PITA! after you remove the bottom and top clamps, the pipe also has a small C clip that you have to de-attach, you gotta wiggle and play with the pipe from the top until it starts goin down, then pull the pipe from under the car completely out.

Cutting the hot side coupler clamp, i did this with a small grinder, be careful not to mess up your oem hose. Then remove the oem coupler, and of course the FMIC completely out by the single torx screw on each side of it..


INSTALLING THE ETS FMIC..
Installing the ETS was pretty simple, hardest part was making sure the couplers were evenly slacked on the FMIC and the OEM pipes so you can get a good seal. im super anal.

The ETS FMIC fits pretty much right in place took me 60 seconds to squeeze it into place. nice and snug, no cutting no modifications!!!

Tightened up the clamps as best i could, as i didnt want any leaks and all done!
Routing the up pipe was pretty simple aswell.
The small tabs on the back of the IC are there so the oem fan shroud slides into place on the fmic, one side of the shorud went nicely into place, the other side wasnt perfect, but the FMIC couldnt go up any further so had to leave it as is.










Ok so now for the good stuff, IAT's!!!

Before i installed the ETS FMIC i went out and did a 2nd-4th WOT run, datalogged the IAt's.. And after i did the same with the ETS FMIC.. datalogs below.

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Runs were done on the same strech of road, starting at the same IAT, and ending in the start of 4th gear. and within 4-5 ambient degress of eachother. about 2-3 hours within the stock FMIC run and the ETS FMIC run.

Here is this afternoon stock FMIC IAT run..
Ambient temp was 40*F and IAT were at 59*F at the start of the run.

At the start of 4th and were i ended my run, IAT's were at 107*F... 48*F rise.


Here is the ETS FMIC run shortly after. about 30 mins after the install.
Ambient temp was about 37*F and IAT were at 59*F at the start of the run.

At the start of 4th and were i ended my run, IAT's were at 75*F... 16*F rise.




So within my logs, trying to make it as fair as possible and trying to see the difference my self..

Doing Logs on the same day, with same mods, same gas, same area, and within the same ambient temps, and same starting IAT,and doing the same 2nd to 4th gear run, i can say the ETS FMIC is doing its job amazingly!!
At the end of 3rd gear the ETS FMIC is 32*F cooler!!!!!!!


Also i have to say, car feels more alive and low end tq seems snappier and up top def feels great!! Gotta say m butt dyno sorta feels a difference


hope you guys enjoyed..


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Nice review. This goes to show others that size doesnt matter. The proof is in the core. It's weight shows how dense the core is in comparison to stock and thus performs so much better. A high efficiency core can beat out an oversized weak core.
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Great information, thank you!
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Nice review. This goes to show others that size doesnt matter. The proof is in the core. It's weight shows how dense the core is in comparison to stock and thus performs so much better. A high efficiency core can beat out an oversized weak core.
+1......100% true and its something i see on this forum that is overviewed so many times. Bigger is better type nonsense that i see going around on these forums and others is crazy..
Its damn heavy, bar and plate, and staggered fin packs, Flows great, all a nice mix for a efficent IC.

As this is my first FMIC, i really wanted to see what its all about and see for myself what it does and if it has done anyting for my car. Learning is great.

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Glad i can help man.
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Nice! I think that will be one of my Spring track upgrades. I'm not a fan of covering up the radiator. The cooling system needs all the help it can get.
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Nice. The modding Is coming along great!! Glad your enjoying the fmic
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Agreed... love my ETS fmic.
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Thanks for datalogging the ETS 5" as I never got around to it. At least I know it's a huge improvement over stock
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Nice! I think that will be one of my Spring track upgrades. I'm not a fan of covering up the radiator. The cooling system needs all the help it can get.
Thanks.. Yea def gonna help you.. Not sure if i misunderstood you but the ETS goes under the OEM radiator and does not block any part of it at all!!

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Nice. The modding Is coming along great!! Glad your enjoying the fmic
Thanks man!! yea little by little you always kept me interested in doing more lol

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Thanks for datalogging the ETS 5" as I never got around to it. At least I know it's a huge improvement over stock
Yea def huge improvement, i had the JB4 set on IAT on gas gauge, it was barely movin during the pulls, thats when a huge smile came over my face.

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Nice! I think that will be one of my Spring track upgrades. I'm not a fan of covering up the radiator. The cooling system needs all the help it can get.
It wont block it anymore then the stock as it has the same surface area as stock it's just a much more efficient core.
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Nice write up bro, ill be joining you soon. :-) going in this week for an oil leak and ill be installing all my mods.
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I believe you should head over to Map 5 now
Yup, gonna do some logs this weekend on map5 see if it does better then my current map2.. Got some custom settings on map 6 that are pretty agressive but i wanna give a run see how the logs look.

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Nice write up bro, ill be joining you soon. :-) going in this week for an oil leak and ill be installing all my mods.
Bes!! ku jeeee... yea i wanna see ur car with all those mods on!! the AMS FMIC is sickk i wanna see that thing... I went by a shop right by my house, juss to see a price quote for install, he goes 90 bucks for the install and i can do it right now.. i was like wtf.. i wasnt gonna do it till end of the week, but then i said fuk it, i basically helped him do everything but install is pretty easy for any IC honestly.
When you put all ur mods on at once ur gonna love it.
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ETS now has a 7" core for the N55... do you think its actually counter productive to have that large of a core where maybe the air in the back would be hotter and heating it back up? Just that I'm not sure what the sweatspot size is for the most efficient. Size matters in more way than one. Too big can be less efficient than just the right size
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ETS now has a 7" core for the N55... do you think its actually counter productive to have that large of a core where maybe the air in the back would be hotter and heating it back up? Just that I'm not sure what the sweatspot size is for the most efficient. Size matters in more way than one. Too big can be less efficient than just the right size
No. You will get similar or better results, however, you won't be using the IC to it's maximum potential until you do major power upgrades such as larger turbos.
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It wont block it anymore then the stock as it has the same surface area as stock it's just a much more efficient core.
Some other brands / homebrew solutions do, though (not mentioning any names). I know there are plenty of other IC options, but I think I like the ETS.
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No. You will get similar or better results, however, you won't be using the IC to it's maximum potential until you do major power upgrades such as larger turbos.
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Some other brands / homebrew solutions do, though (not mentioning any names). I know there are plenty of other IC options, but I think I like the ETS.
Oh I know I was referring to this intercooler since it was about the ETS 5inch.
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Damn 90 bucks is a steal.
Not bad right... nice italian guy.. did a damn good job too, with my guidance. amazing what shops and deals you can find around the area, like the dynojet you mentioned on 65th st..
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Mid-summer bump for guys looking for FMIC data..
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For the data. Went ahead and ordered an ETS 5" from ets. Can't wait to get it
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