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      02-13-2012, 02:27 PM   #45
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Thank you! Now I have found some cables k+dcan
one is from here http://www.ecutool.com/BMW-INPA-KCAN_1939.html
the other is from here http://www.one-stop-electronics.com/...&product_id=16

They look the same yet one is $50 cheaper.....any recommendations?
They both say it will fit my year....e90 built 04/07

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I bought mine from one-stop-electronics. It works
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Wow. I thought this thread died. I kind of gave up after a while since I couldn't get my own setup working. I was able to code the KOMBI module, and the FA, but when i tried to code FRM i got that 'transmission disturbed' or whatever error. I think my battery is failing so I'm waiting to replace that to try again. I apologize if my archive caused you any inconvenience. I may remove it if it continues to give problems to users here.
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      02-14-2012, 06:28 PM   #47
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I apologize if my archive caused you any inconvenience. I may remove it if it continues to give problems to users here.
Totally no apologies necessary. Wasn't my intent to make it appear that in any way your contribution hindered me. In fact, if I didn't load your INPA program (which gave me NCS, EDIABAS, etc), I probably wouldn't have gotten my cable to work properly. About all I had to change was to bring in the updated EDIABAS and your v45 DATEN.
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I downloaded both from your links, thank you by the way.
I am new at this coding, I don't even have a cable yet but I will be asking a question or 2 as I go into my learning curves.
Do I need progman or can I use the other files with ediabas and ncs, etc..
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I downloaded both from your links, thank you by the way.
I am new at this coding, I don't even have a cable yet but I will be asking a question or 2 as I go into my learning curves.
Do I need progman or can I use the other files with ediabas and ncs, etc..
depends on what you want to do.. NCSExpert is used for low level (and possibly dangerous) coding. INPA is a code interpreter for most BMWs. As i understand ProgMan is a simpler UI (encapsulates INPA, and NCS Expert) used by dealers. You can code with NCS Expert without having ProgMan configured if that is what you are asking
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depends on what you want to do.. NCSExpert is used for low level (and possibly dangerous) coding. INPA is a code interpreter for most BMWs. As i understand ProgMan is a simpler UI (encapsulates INPA, and NCS Expert) used by dealers. You can code with NCS Expert without having ProgMan configured if that is what you are asking
Yes, in a nut shell, that's basically what I was asking. So both links, either/or can be used. If progman is easier/user friendly I may have to start off with that since this is all too new to me and maybe it will help me in understanding it all. Thanks for your answer.
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Progman is very difficult to install

After a month I still can get it to go . There are all kind of bugs in it that require patches the most common of which is the Interface Cable bug as it just won't work with a common cable without exactly the right patch. Also there is another patch for most bus cars. It also depends on the fact you have and up to date version of ediabas and inpa working under it. DIS57 is fairly easy to get working if you have the vmware working with it. The easiest version of the three (inpa , ediabas and ncsexpert)to get working I have come across so far is juniors original you just download it and it works.
You will have to use vmware to install progman and dis57 as all the versions I have found are based on it. I am not and IT Engineer but am fairly experienced on computers and this is not that straightforward for a part time geek.
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For BMW_Coding_Apps_v2.rar what version of the data files are included?
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DIS is great but very slooow , inpa and ncs - perfect for customising car, and issa ( ista p daten v45.2) is using for update car modules to the newest software.

Why would anybody want to use progman these days ?
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Because ista p is not available

Because ista p is not available.
Do you know a source for it?
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Because ista p is not available.
Do you know a source for it?
i grabbed it of of Usenet last week. the whole thing downloaded in 10 minutes
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For BMW_Coding_Apps_v2.rar what version of the data files are included?
I think it is supposed to be version 45. No offense to OP but i tried getting a new machine working with BMW_Coding_Apps_v2.rar for two weeks. I could not juggle everything to get it finished.. I highly recommend using Phil Harlow's tutorial here: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=588311

i downloaded his zip file, followed his instructions (a variant of the BMW Coding Success!!! thread) and was up and running in 10 minutes. Phil's DIY package is SPDATEN v41. So if you need to code the newest cars find a post on updating NCSExpert to version 45.

It's working great on 2007, 2008, and 2011 E9x cars this week
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I have read in so many posts on this coding.
I read somewhere that the one program does not work with (64 bit)
I was going to run out to grab a knock around laptop but wanted to double check since the one I am shooting for has Windows 7 (64 bit)
I don't want to buy it and than it doesn't work. I also read somewhere that it works best with Windows XP.
So the link provided here on page 1/post 1 is good with windows 7 (64 bit)
Anyone have any problems installing it and using it on theirs?

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I have read in so many posts on this coding.
I read somewhere that the one program does not work with (64 bit)
I was going to run out to grab a knock around laptop but wanted to double check since the one I am shooting for has Windows 7 (64 bit)
I don't want to buy it and than it doesn't work. I also read somewhere that it works best with Windows XP.
So the link provided here on page 1/post 1 is good with windows 7 (64 bit)
Anyone have any problems installing it and using it on theirs?

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I couldn't get it to work with Windows 7 Premium, so I upgraded to Professional in order to get the XP Mode. It cost about $100 direct through microsoft. Then install everything in that mode. Towards the top, there will be a tab USB. You need to click ATTACH so you can use your USB-OBD cable. Even if you get everything working perfectly, but forget that little tidbit, you'll be pulling your hair out.

If you're looking to code a 2007, I would think you could use everything from the OP's first pos,t, but certainly via the link that Peertwelve??

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I'm on Windows 7 just fine.
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I couldn't get it to work with Windows 7 Premium, so I upgraded to Professional in order to get the XP Mode. It cost about $100 direct through microsoft. Then install everything in that mode. Towards the top, there will be a tab USB. You need to click ATTACH so you can use your USB-OBD cable. Even if you get everything working perfectly, but forget that little tidbit, you'll be pulling your hair out.

If you're looking to code a 2007, I would think you could use everything from the OP's first pos,t, but certainly via the link that Peertwelve??
Thank you, that's a huge help!
The only thing with the link via peertwelve is the daten version is v41. Some have said v41 needs to be upgraded to v45?
I will assume for now that the v41 will work with my 07. Maybe the newer version will not communicate with my 07 as windows 7 wouldn't communicate with versions from XP.
I hope that made sense lol
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Thank you, that's a huge help!
The only thing with the link via peertwelve is the daten version is v41. Some have said v41 needs to be upgraded to v45?
I will assume for now that the v41 will work with my 07. Maybe the newer version will not communicate with my 07 as windows 7 wouldn't communicate with versions from XP.
I hope that made sense lol
Yes Phil's DIY post uses version 41. Depending on what you are trying to do version 41 may be fine. FOr instance to ping the NFRM module in INPA version 45 doesn't work (at least on my car) but 41 does.

If you're going to code your car with NCSExpert and your car's software has been recently updated at the dealer then updating to version 45 probably makes sense. You could use the DIY post and then follow this guide to update to v45

updating to SPDATEN45 is simple. on your coding rig open a command prompt. navigate to c:\SPDATEN 45 DIRECTORY\daten. execute the batch file laden.bat.

if you want to see what the command does, then do something like this:

c:\spdaten45\daten\laden.bat > c:\laden.txt

run the command and then open laden.txt to see what was updated
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Thank you! Now I have found some cables k+dcan
one is from here http://www.ecutool.com/BMW-INPA-KCAN_1939.html
the other is from here http://www.one-stop-electronics.com/...&product_id=16

They look the same yet one is $50 cheaper.....any recommendations?
They both say it will fit my year....e90 built 04/07

Thanks again
Just want to add that the cheaper one worked with my car, '07 E90.
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How is this package compared to this and Phil's?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=180
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How is this package compared to this and Phil's?

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=180
the package you link has version 45 in it. Phil's has version 41 in it. Phil's package has working INPA EDIABAS 7.2 and NCSExpert 3.1. The package you linked has INPA working. NCS probably does too but the DIY doesn't use it. so who knows. the OP in that thread only focused on injector programming with INPA so YMMV
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I was able to unpack and install your BMW_Coding_Apps_v2.rar on my Win7 Ultimate 32 bit OS. I bought a cable from Ebay seller Alborz1010 that claims to support K and D-CAN so it should work for my 2009 E90. I'll report back when I receive it in about 10 days.
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