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      01-17-2012, 09:24 AM   #23
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Hi Gents,

here are a few pics illustrating the comparative size of our Stage 1 (15 row) oil cooler and the Stage 2 (20 row) cooler.

As you can see even the Stage 1 core has more frontal surface area than the BMW OE oil cooler and significantly more core volume.

The 20 row core is a monster in comparison to the tiny OE unit.

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we plan to have the complete Stage 2 oil cooler kit fitted to our 135i by this time next week.

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Looks great! I'm sure your product will work very well.

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Looks Great!! Any plans on a kit for a 335d? If so I would def like to get in on one.
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Looks great! I'm sure your product will work very well.

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Thanks mate.

What oil cooler kit are you currently running, does it meet the cooling requirements of the track work that you do?

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Looks Great!! Any plans on a kit for a 335d? If so I would def like to get in on one.
Thank you for the kudos.

Firstly we have to start work on the 3 Series kits, then we could certainly have a look at the possibility, of doing a kit for you diesel guys.

To be honest I have very little knowledge about the "d" range of BMW's, does your vehicle have an OE oil cooler?
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Hey guys,

here is a post from the 1Addicts Australian forum, that will provide you with some very interesting specs on the oil coolers we have chosen for our 135i kits.

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Thanks JD.
Picture comparo would be good, but may not tell the story of efficiency of each of the three. As the 20 row unit extends below the air duct, the extra 5 rows will not have the same effect as the 15 above, but will still provide some extra cooling. Could the cooling duct be extended lower? May not look OEM then.
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Hey Tim,

I hope you found the pics I posted to be useful.

The extra 5 rows present in the 20 row core will most definitely improve the efficiency of the oil cooler.

Whilst frontal surface is critical to improved efficiency, total volume also plays an important role in heat transfer.

As an example how many upgraded intercoolers on the market actually have unobstructed airflow across the ENTIRE front surface of the core, when installed on a 135i or 335i?

To the best of my knowledge none.

The KL Racing aka "Big Tom" intercooler has been reported to be a very nice upgrade, over the ineffecient OE intercooler.

I can assure you there is no way in hell that clean air will see every square centimetre, of the front face of that intercooler.

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the core volume of the BMW OE oil cooler is approximately 595 cubic centimetres.

The Stage 1 (15 row) core volume is approximately 1,678 cubic centimetres.

The Stage 2 (20 row) core has a volume equal to approximately 2,288 cubic centimetres.

This puts our 15 row cooler at 2.82 x the core volume of the OE unit.

The 20 row cooler is a very impressive 3.85 x the core volume, of the tiny BMW OE oil cooler.


Lastly,

the cooling duct cannot be extended lower, as the face of the oil cooler is in close proximity to the plastic cowling on the inside of the bumper.

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Thanks mate.

What oil cooler kit are you currently running, does it meet the cooling requirements of the track work that you do?
I have one additional oil cooler (the AR design one which is placed in front of the radiator behind the kidney grille) and an upgraded stock oil cooler with a Setrab core.

It was after adding the lastmentioned one that my oil temps were perfect, even with extensive track use during summer. With only the additional AR design oil cooler and the stock oil cooler, temps went beyond 130 degrees celsius in particular when driving very fast on the German motorway (in excess of 240 km/h) which I was not very comfortable with.

I have no doubt that your products will also improve the resistance to thermal stress considerably. When I started modifying my car, the options for all this were much more limited than they are today!

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I have no doubt that your products will also improve the resistance to thermal stress considerably. When I started modifying my car, the options for all this were much more limited than they are today!

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Thank you for the Kudos.

There is no doubt that in the long run, a bit of healthy competition will benefit the consumer and the performance of the 135i & 335i vehicles alike.

Cheers,

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Hey Gents,

here are a few pics of the completed Stage 1 (15 row) cooler fitted to my car.

Please note that the bracket you see is not the production version, for the purposes of initial fitment and testing it is our original prototype bracket.

The mounting bracket that will be included in our kits will be made of 3 mm steel and powder coated black. The fastening hardware will also be of a higher quality and less (shall we say) obtrusive.

I will also take a few pics of the -10 AN oil filter housing adapter we have used for the Stage 1 kit, prior to removing the entire kit next week to install our Stage 2 (20 row) external Mocal stat' setup.
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Hi guys,

here is a post from the 1Addicts Aus forum "Oil Cooler" thread, that may be of interest to you.

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What are the differences between this kit and the Stett?

Both utilise the Setrab core. The Stett's core seems more square, whilst the Advan seems taller.


Hey mate,

with regards the core dimensions I can measure the Setrab cooler in the Stett Stage 2 kit if you like.

The cooler in the Stett kit is definitely more square, where as our 20 row "Extra Wide" core is very much rectangular.

Geometry lesson aside both our coolers make far better use of the airflow through the lower duct on the right side of the front bar.

Whilst I suspect the Stage 2 coolers of both kits will be similar in core volume and frontal surface area, our kit is built entirely around -10 AN fittings.

All the fittings on the Stett kit are only -8.

As such there will be more potential for oil flow restriction via -8 hose and hose ends, then our larger inner diametre -10 AN hose and fittings.

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the fittings in the OE oil cooler are equivalent to -10 in size.

The Earl's Pro-Lite Ultra hose we use in both kits is far more durable than the oil lines supplied with the Stett kit, the Pro-Lite hose retails for $82.50 per metre, when you hold it in your hand you can see why.

The Earl's Series 3000 hose ends we use where possible are also of an exceptionally high quality, we could have gone with a cheaper alternative, but we did not set out to develop a kit that was in anyway a compromise.

Lastly the installation of our kit will NOT require the removal, of the entire front bumper assembly of the car to mount the cooler bracket, as is necessary with the Stett kit.

You need only remove the front right wheel and the wheel arch splash liner, which I have done several times myself and it's not a terribly difficult task.

Just to refresh everyone's memory here are some pics of the hose and hose ends we use in both our Stage 1 & Stage 2 kits.

Cheers,

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Hey Gents,

here are a few pics of the -10 AN oil filter housing adapter, that we are using in our Stage 1 oil cooler kits, that retain the use of the BMW OE thermostat.

It's currently fitted to our 135i and I will snap off some pics of the installed component soon.

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the Stage 1 kit that was installed in my car, to ensure correct fitment and to evaluate oil temps, will be up for sale soon as it will be removed to make way for our Stage 2 kit.

Our group buy price for the Stage 1 oil cooler kit is $650.00, exclusive of shipping.

I can assure you as a slightly used kit, it will be going for a lot less than that.
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You should post in the turbo section! I just found out about your products on accident while browsing the vendor section.
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Hey mate,

thanks for the tip, whilst I would love to do that I am not sure that would be a good idea, as I suspect it will be in contravention to forum policy.

That being said it's a little disconcerting that you found our product thread by "accident".

Perhaps I could get away with a link to this thread.

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I hope my suggestion doesn't get in trouble.

GL with business.
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Haha,

not as yet mate.

If you are liking the look of our product, feel free to bump that thread and make your thoughts heard.

Thanking you,

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Have you had a chance to test fit this on a 335i?

How much are you going to sell the used Stage 1 for?

Can I call dibs? =P
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Have you had a chance to test fit this on a 335i?

How much are you going to sell the used Stage 1 for?

Can I call dibs? =P
Hey mate,

it would seem you are our one and only US based supporter, I should really provide you with an Advan VIP card.

The 335i is an entirely different kit as it will utilise a dual oil cooler configuration, in lieu of airflow restrictions through the front 3 Series bar.

The used Stage 1 kit will be discounted without a doubt, feel free to make me an offer if you are keen for it right now.

If the price is right it is yours, but please remember it is 135i specific.

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