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      02-27-2012, 10:32 PM   #45
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There is no specific timeline for failure.. Some will last forever some will fail quickly. We've seen many fail on stock cars so there is no rule of thumb. Enjoy the JB4 and just monitor the CP and you should be okay, but the point of the thread is not for everybody to buy a CP now, but just that it should be in your long term modding plan, and you should monitor your stock CP periodically.

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They didn't go with a stock type connection which uses the C clip. I personally like that type of connection much better than a silicone coupler.

On the other hand they will both perform the same function but going with a coupler style will save you a few bucks.
Yup.. You have to CNC the stock C-clip so it adds cost but ensures a proper fit. I am not a fan of the silicone connector and have had stories of them popping off. Not sure if it was installer error or that the silicone connector isn't as robust, but for piece of mind I would stick with either the BMS or ER as they both use the stock C-Clip mount.

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      02-27-2012, 10:48 PM   #47
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thanks for the advice. The supporting vendors on this board are top-notch, world of difference from certain other forums I've been on
always happy to help. A lot of vendors on here re fellow enthusiasts, so we like helping out. Not always in it to make a sale

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      02-28-2012, 08:11 AM   #48
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Ok so to put this into Sara term:

**Maybe this is why Im single. I ask too many damn questions**
Better to not ask questions and be forever ignorant? I think not... These are questions a lot of people have, but most people on here, well... Either they are too afraid to ask (because of the flame hammer) or just go with whatever they think is best without getting information from the professionals / vendors.

(If guys don't like you asking questions, maybe they aren't the right guys). Wish I had a girlfriend who love to modify cars... I guess I'll just have to influence my daughter when she's of age to have the same love I have (of modifying cars)...
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      02-28-2012, 08:49 AM   #49
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mine is laying in my garage and seems to me the only one that didn't break out of you guys lol. I didn't upgrade to any cp because i was getting vishnu's meth kit and wanted to wait till that time. Their cp is pretty sweet as well!
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Better to not ask questions and be forever ignorant? I think not... These are questions a lot of people have, but most people on here, well... Either they are too afraid to ask (because of the flame hammer) or just go with whatever they think is best without getting information from the professionals / vendors.

(If guys don't like you asking questions, maybe they aren't the right guys). Wish I had a girlfriend who love to modify cars... I guess I'll just have to influence my daughter when she's of age to have the same love I have (of modifying cars)...
Agreed! Always better to ask question to get it right than to post later with pictures of your car parked in the driveway with a f'ed up engine or something because you bought the wrong parts, or didn't have something you needed.

I think the big one for me is the flame hammer. I typically paste a few links of what searches returned, if anything, into notepad if the search didn't answer my question. That way if I get this -> I can post my links.
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Agreed! Always better to ask question to get it right than to post later with pictures of your car parked in the driveway with a f'ed up engine or something because you bought the wrong parts, or didn't have something you needed.

I think the big one for me is the flame hammer. I typically paste a few links of what searches returned, if anything, into notepad if the search didn't answer my question. That way if I get this -> I can post my links.
Hell I dont even use search lol....
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This is too scary for me. Im going to stay stock.
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This is too scary for me. Im going to stay stock.
To be fair, even stock people are having some issues with their Charge Pipes. You should mod! Once you buy that first mod it becomes addicting. I just bought one yesterday and another today. HAHA
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To be fair, even stock people are having some issues with their Charge Pipes. You should mod! Once you buy that first mod it becomes addicting. I just bought one yesterday and another today. HAHA
Im too scared about losing warranty. BMW spent Im sure over 10k. to fix my engine with 8 different attempts and a flying out the regional engineer. I was out of my car for 20 days.
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Yup.. You have to CNC the stock C-clip so it adds cost but ensures a proper fit. I am not a fan of the silicone connector and have had stories of them popping off. Not sure if it was installer error or that the silicone connector isn't as robust, but for piece of mind I would stick with either the BMS or ER as they both use the stock C-Clip mount.

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I strongly agree. If either of those pieces had been out when I was shopping for a CP, I would have them instead of this Vishnu piece which is more or less a straight pipe with a meth bung and two silicone connectors. Same goes for DP haha!

I find that you need to ensure the connections between the connector and outlets are nice and dry, and then connect them with a t-bolt clamp instead of standard worm drive clamp.
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      02-28-2012, 02:21 PM   #56
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Im too scared about losing warranty. BMW spent Im sure over 10k. to fix my engine with 8 different attempts and a flying out the regional engineer. I was out of my car for 20 days.
I'm the same way. But ER makes a Hard Anodized Black finish that is supposed to make it look more stock. So for routine maintenance they shouldn't ever take the charge pipe off, and thus never have the issue of noticing it is after market. On the off chance something DOES go wrong with the internals of the car, just swap out the ER with the stock one before taking it in. Also, you mind be able to find a good SA in your area, or close, that will be fair to you and not care that you have an after market part on the car unless he can clearly see it caused the issue.
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Ok so to put this into Sara term:

The ER pipe is like Burberry the ETS pipe is like Wal-Mart? Why such a price difference?


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Wal-Mart?

No.. No.. No.. - We believe in offering a product at a fair price. Unlike a lot of these "manufacturers" on here, we build our products in house, this why we can offer a lower price directly to the customer.

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Wal-Mart?

No.. No.. No.. - We believe in offering a product at a fair price. Unlike a lot of these "manufacturers" on here, we build our products in house, this why we can offer a lower price directly to the customer.

You can see our shop pics here.

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I just wrote a couple reviews on our charge pipes, you can see in this thread.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=654561

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Oh I gotcha, so there is no middle man price then. I see.

**Disclaimer I am just learning and absorbing all this info. Dont flame me**
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do you have to take the intake off to install? it looks like the upper connection is blocked by it.
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do you have to take the intake off to install? it looks like the upper connection is blocked by it.
Yes.
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You have to take the intake off to install the CP? Or did I miss something?
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You have to take the intake off to install the CP? Or did I miss something?
That's correct. You could try and work around it I guess, but it would be much easier to remove it first.
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That's correct. You could try and work around it I guess, but it would be much easier to remove it first.
When I pop my hood I can see the charge pipe, and then I see this big plastic (?) casing/rectangle pipe that runs over the top to my air filter. Is that the intake you're talking about, or are you referring to the intake manifold? Or are they the same? Haha, now I'm confused. I thought this was like a ~30 minute job. I know when my friends have taken their intake manifolds of their mazdas it is an all day event.
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The big plastic intake box thingy to the right of the engine is generally removed for this installation so you can have better access to the Charge Pipe. Removing it requires removing the top part of the intake. It does not involve taking off the entire intake from the turbo, only the right side is taken off.

It's a straightforward install and took me less than an hour.
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The big plastic intake box thingy to the right of the engine is generally removed for this installation so you can have better access to the Charge Pipe. Removing it requires removing the top part of the intake. It does not involve taking off the entire intake from the turbo, only the right side is taken off.

It's a straightforward install and took me less than an hour.
Guess I'll see how it goes. I better set aside a full day for this,just in case. haha.
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What map are most people running that ends up with a broken CP? And what are the symptoms that it's cracked?
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