[johanness]

Hopefully we'll see a lightweight successor Z4MC. I'm somewhat glad they didn't come out with another watered-down 'M' on their current bloated platform

[Jspeed]

I don't mind not having the M5 Touring since we have the M550dx Touring. Wait, we don't...

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by Staszek

the Z4M, it could be a real sports car.

Keep it M3, M5, M6 and Z4M, no SAV M's!!

This ^^^ 100%

When will the next Generation Zed's be rolling off the assembly line? 2014, 2015? ... ANYONE KNOWS?

[Mr. ///M3 RD]

Originally Posted by aajami

touring monsters in Europe.

I'm disappointed with the lack of a Z4M, however. But I'm guessing that BMW shot its load with 35is and couldn't justify another $8-10,000 above its already inflated price tag to develop an S65-powered M version.

Speak about monsters in Europe ,,, Have you seen this ... here is one you can get for 100,000 Euro if you write a cheque otherwise they are asking 150,000 Euro for a modified Z4 748 HP ... faster then the Ferrari, Porsche, Aston Martin, Lamborghini, etc. on the Nurburgring.

Check it out --->Click

[JulieDriving]

You know what I like?

The fact that his new M head can say, "No, at least not in this generation"

"No" says to me, "we (are able to/ want to) prioritize".

[MTL Bimmer]

Originally Posted by PKumarM3

that be a good thing! mercedes once made all their cars look alike and BMW said they would never do that. then audi did it. bmw stuck to that.

now bmw makes all their cars look alike, where as Mercedes and Audi want differentiation between their models.


bmw has jumped the shark. the new 3 is HIDEOUS, the 5 looks good, the new 7 looks obnoxious and ginormous.

i would take a benz AMG over any car BMW makes except the m3.

c63amg < m3
e63amg > M5
S63amg > 760?
ml63amg > x5m
cl63/sl63 > m6

gone are the days of BMW being "better handling". go drive a new e63 amg and honestly tell me that it can't dance as well if not better than any bmw.

really?

c63amg > m3
e63amg < M5
S63amg < 760?
ml63amg < x5m
cl63/sl63 < m6

lol

[Mako]

aajami

You really think there is no market for a X3M? Ha

[Mako]

Scott26

You say there will be a X4M and then later say you can't have one without the other comparing the X3/X4 with the X5/X6. I guess I am confused, if they are making a X4M like you say then that also implies there would be an X3M but the head of BMW M just said that will not happen.

[RL530xit]

I would have loved to have seen an F11 M5 Touring, although the U.S. would have never seen the light of day in respects to it. I love my 5 series touring, best BMW I've owned (6th BMW). Kinda makes me sad they won't build one.

[red-sauerkraut]

I agree.

Originally Posted by M3_WC

If they are going to make any M-suv it should be on the lighter more nimble X3 platform.

They don't want to eat into the already limited sales numbers of the X5M/X6M. It is a niche low volume seller.

At a minimum the X3M would push twice as many units.

[xDrive35i]

Originally Posted by kmarei

OMG
BMW will allow Audi to have a model without a direct competitor from BMW?
if Audi release the S Q5 Bmw won't match it?
that's shocking!

The X3 xDrive35i is already multitudes faster and more agile than the top of the line, Q5 3.2. If Audi were to make an SQ5, it would likely match the numbers of the 35i. If you notice, the 335i competes with the S4 and the 550i competes with soon-to-be S6. BMW's top range, non-M models compete with Audi's S models, and BMW's M models compete with Audi's RS models.

[JA///MES]

Originally Posted by 767IJP

Excellent news. M is a brand that need not be diluted.

M cannot be all things to all people. It sounds like they are realizing this. Lets hope they stay true to the Badge.

Unfortunately I believe they are diluting the M brand by making so many M performance upgrades for all the F series. What was wrong with BMW performance parts for everyone that didn't buy an M in the first place? I just think that they should just start putting an M on everything to make everyone feel good!

[kmarei]

Originally Posted by juddholland

The X3 xDrive35i is already multitudes faster and more agile than the top of the line, Q5 3.2. If Audi were to make an SQ5, it would likely match the numbers of the 35i. If you notice, the 335i competes with the S4 and the 550i competes with soon-to-be S6. BMW's top range, non-M models compete with Audi's S models, and BMW's M models compete with Audi's RS models.

Well this is all speculation
But the q5s wil, have between 330 if they use the engine from the A6
Or 408 if you check out the q5 concept they showed

[3_runner]

I would have enjoyed a Z4M and M5 touring. I agree with no X3M... While you're at it, eliminate X5M and X6M.

[nick3753]

There was speculation last year that there would be no M sedan version of the f30, and with the coupe likely being referred to as M4, that would have meant the end of the M3. I'm not sure what the point of this statement is, but could you have imagined the backlash.

[Pauldramos]

Originally Posted by shanecarmaster1

M3, M5, M6, supercar. That's all they should have.

Great decision BMW!

+1

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by ilya335

So no X3M or Z4M? Which frankly I thought would've been two cool cars.

Yet you say yes to the X5/X6M 5.0 Diesels, which won't even make it to the states?

Am I the only one confused by this logic?

No, not the only one. It makes absolutely zero sense.

They won't make a true M-car, like the last Z4M. But they will waste peoples time putting M-badges on everything under the sun.

Give the S65 a true send-off. Last of the great normally aspirated V8's.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by Morning Hawk

I couldn't agree more. How in God's name is the e63amg better than the new M5? I really hope that was a typo and you meant it to read: e63amg < M5.

E63 with the M157 has more tuning potential. Doesn't hurt the E63 is lighter, a couple magazines believe steering feel and handling is better in the E63.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by aajami

I never understood the desire to make an X3M. There is no market for it, and the Q5S (or whatever it'll be called) and the Macan seem more likely competitors to a potential X4M than an X3M.

I think you are underestimating the market for a X3M.

The X5M/X6M should end production. The X3M/X4M would move many more units.

[Jake C]

Originally Posted by JasonCSU

Scott,
That being the case with the current Z4, is there any news that can be shared about a potential Z2 coupe/roadster coming to market someday?

I think 2014 for the Z2. Maybe an internet reveal in 2013. I think the Z2 will be FWD models if I am not mistaken.


- J

[Xelloss]

If SCOTT26 is wrong on this, hopefully he's wrong about the nomenclature switch for the 3 series coupe being rebranded as a '4 series' with other rumors suggesting that the coupe shall remain a '3 series.' It's only a name, but possibly hearing 'BMW M4' just irks the passionate BMW loyalist in me. Thankfully, the accursed V6 is off the table as per the BMW board's will. In the end though, only time will tell.

[teagueAMX]

Shame about the Z4 ///M - anyone that says an e89 ///M is diluting the line is full of crap.