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      04-18-2012, 01:52 PM   #111
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I'm not sure I understand correctly. Is the ODB accessible without breaking in the car?

just realised that my question could help a thief...happy to get the answer by message or just "yes"
They mainly use a master key to open the window and reach the OBD port.

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      04-18-2012, 01:52 PM   #112
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I think we should come up with a strongly worded email, find someone high up in bmw send them a copy and copy watchdog in on it. I think if we did this, we could get a response, especially if we get hundreds of us doing exactly the same thing.

There are loads of bmw forums so it wont take long to get around!
I was thinking about writing to BMW in an official capacity regarding the thefts of the vehicles. Thing is I wouldn't be able to post the reply.

Maybe I'll just get a letter done as a private owner and see what the official slant on this is.
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      04-18-2012, 01:54 PM   #113
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I was thinking about writing to BMW in an official capacity regarding the thefts of the vehicles. Thing is I wouldn't be able to post the reply.

Maybe I'll just get a letter done as a private owner and see what the official slant on this is.
Official capacity?

I dont see why we couldn't compile a generic letter that anyone interested could send?
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      04-18-2012, 01:58 PM   #114
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Official capacity?

I dont see why we couldn't compile a generic letter that anyone interested could send?
+1

if anyone can share such a letter, I'll send it too (asking as english is not my native language).
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      04-18-2012, 02:03 PM   #115
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Shortie I'm an auto crimes vehicle examiner for the met.
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      04-18-2012, 02:09 PM   #116
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Shortie I'm an auto crimes vehicle examiner for the met.
Someone who knows what they are talking about then
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      04-18-2012, 02:12 PM   #117
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I know whats what generally but I don't specialise in BMW or any specific do obd tech info etc isn't my forte, there's plenty of people on here that are very very knowledgeable regarding Beemer systems.
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      04-18-2012, 02:15 PM   #118
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I'm an auto crimes vehicle examiner for the met.
Personally I'd prefer you did a letter to BMW in your official capacity, even if we do not find out what the reply is.

Plenty of people on Pistonheads have written letters as a private owner and all they got is some hopeless response that "BMW meets current standards" with regard to security, ie "not our problem, mate"
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I can do, but I will have to give a sanitised response if this is ok?
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I can do, but I will have to give a sanitised response if this is ok?
Perfect
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The below is "stolen" from pistonheads and is in relation to thefts via obd...
BMW fixed the issue back in 2010, then another way in was found which has since been addressed in v45 and onward firmware. How long it will take the scummers to hack back in is open to question.

The chances of BMW doing a recall are very slim. A software update takes most of the day to complete and costs up to £200. BMW don't like flashing the firmware if they can help it because of the risk in frying the Cas unit.

If you are still under warranty and you have a problem with your bluetooth not working properly for example. The whole car will get a firmware update under warranty. This would include the Cas module.
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I can do, but I will have to give a sanitised response if this is ok?
Lovely jubley.

Any response is likely to be better than the hopeless efforts from BMW reported to private customers so far.
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The below is "stolen" from pistonheads and is in relation to thefts via obd...
BMW fixed the issue back in 2010, then another way in was found which has since been addressed in v45 and onward firmware. How long it will take the scummers to hack back in is open to question.
I read that. So far I have only seen one person write this. 11-plate vehicles are also being stolen. Think more confirmation is required before we believe it.
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      04-18-2012, 04:35 PM   #124
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I was thinking about writing to BMW in an official capacity regarding the thefts of the vehicles. Thing is I wouldn't be able to post the reply.

Maybe I'll just get a letter done as a private owner and see what the official slant on this is.
Sounds good to me, as an officer of the Law i think they may have to stand up and have another look.

If we all use the letter/or similar too and we ALL send it then surely something has to be done, if we do this in large numbers surely it cant go un noticed
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      04-18-2012, 06:08 PM   #125
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Sounds good to me, as an officer of the Law i think they may have to stand up and have another look.

If we all use the letter/or similar too and we ALL send it then surely something has to be done, if we do this in large numbers surely it cant go un noticed

I would love to think that this would be the case-however,as Mart1000 is I presume aware,BMW have rejected calls to address this issue by AVCIS in recent months.
I think that coverage/negative publicity in the media will be the only thing that eventually makes BMW act-although this could be a double-edged sword leading to more cars being stolen-still worth a try though.
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      04-18-2012, 06:24 PM   #126
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Forget smashing the window, just to cheer us up even more
At least this would set the alarm off as it would trigger the door open sensor. The trusted brick seems to be a quicker and better way of getting into the car. Try to lock and alarm your car. Then use the key in the fob to unluck and open the door.
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      04-18-2012, 06:43 PM   #127
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I would love to think that this would be the case-however,as Mart1000 is I presume aware,BMW have rejected calls to address this issue by AVCIS in recent months.
I think that coverage/negative publicity in the media will be the only thing that eventually makes BMW act-although this could be a double-edged sword leading to more cars being stolen-still worth a try though.
I think your right, until BMW start getting a bad name in the press they are simply not interested in their customer!



On another note, im looking at upgrading / fitting a second siren as the BMW one is utter ****, it would not wake me if i slept next to it!
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      04-19-2012, 03:37 AM   #128
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although this could be a double-edged sword leading to more cars being stolen
True. I remember being around the Golf MKIV/Skoda/SEAT/Audi forums back in the day and we all knew about the ridiculous security flaw with these cars but it was rarely discussed due to careful moderation. Then all of a sudden it was on Watchdog and a lot of people got very nervous very quickly.
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      04-19-2012, 04:23 AM   #129
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The below is "stolen" from pistonheads and is in relation to thefts via obd...
BMW fixed the issue back in 2010, then another way in was found which has since been addressed in v45 and onward firmware. How long it will take the scummers to hack back in is open to question.

The chances of BMW doing a recall are very slim. A software update takes most of the day to complete and costs up to £200. BMW don't like flashing the firmware if they can help it because of the risk in frying the Cas unit.

If you are still under warranty and you have a problem with your bluetooth not working properly for example. The whole car will get a firmware update under warranty. This would include the Cas module.
what if you're not anymore under warranty, can I show up and ask for an update?
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what if you're not anymore under warranty, can I show up and ask for an update?
Yes, but don't forget to take plenty of wonga!
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      04-19-2012, 09:07 AM   #131
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Swap over CAN High and Low (pins 6 & 15)
Mike,

Should that be "Pin 14" for CAN Low ?????

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anyone know how to get access to obd to remove cover

can anyone give me some advice on how to remove the plastic so i can get access to the obd port. i have an e93 and am not too sure where the screws are to remove the plastic casing ? thanks in advance
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