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      02-09-2012, 09:32 AM   #67
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Oh so this never happened? I agree, Full-Race makes some of the BEST manifolds!

Also, they are adopting new turbo technology, the Borg Warner EFR!

I'm going to use their twin-scroll T4 manifold on my Sr20det.
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      02-21-2012, 01:26 PM   #68
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      02-21-2012, 01:39 PM   #69
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In for later... big fan of Full-Race. I too was a honda boiii at one point
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      02-21-2012, 02:06 PM   #70
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Won't be long until we start seeing threads with images like this.


EX: ETS Supra Kit. [Not N54]
Are you being serious or just another cock teaser post?
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      02-21-2012, 10:20 PM   #71
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Nice! Also a former RSX owner and I know Full Race was top notch with their Honda applications. Can't wait to see what they have in store for the N54.
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      04-23-2012, 07:49 PM   #72
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Full-Race is working on a T4 Twinscroll EFR setup for the 335i. Looking forward to see what you guys come up with.
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      04-23-2012, 08:25 PM   #73
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is this kit complete? Looks like 5 months since last update
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      04-23-2012, 09:41 PM   #74
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This is gonna be nuts!
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      04-23-2012, 10:04 PM   #75
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They are looking at releasing the kit @ SEMA 2013.
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      04-23-2012, 10:10 PM   #76
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      04-23-2012, 10:21 PM   #77
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finally, im sick of all these no name companies with no background producing things for the N54
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      04-23-2012, 10:49 PM   #78
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finally, im sick of all these no name companies with no background producing things for the N54
cool story dumbass. HPF an vishnu nonames you say? try searching a bit
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      04-23-2012, 10:57 PM   #79
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cool story dumbass. HPF an vishnu nonames you say? try searching a bit
dumbass? i dont know you.. slut

and no i wasnt talking about them, obviously. pay attention
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Calm down ladies
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      04-23-2012, 11:22 PM   #82
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HPF should be banned for that travesty of a turbo kit they built over the last 20 years. Vishnu knows tuning but the FFTEC turbo kit leaves much to be desired in my opinion. If anyone gets the hardware right - it will be Full-Race.
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      04-23-2012, 11:34 PM   #83
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HPF should be banned for that travesty of a turbo kit they built over the last 20 years. Vishnu knows tuning but the FFTEC turbo kit leaves much to be desired in my opinion. If anyone gets the hardware right - it will be Full-Race.
You haven't seen the production kit pictures of our single turbo kit. Compared to the prototype system on our car, the runners are 50% shorter, more equal length and the merge is at a narrower angle. Don't see how much more of an improvement is possible given space constraints. And FWIW, the head fabricator at FFTEC used worked at Full Race. He's quite exceptional.

Using a mid to large frame EFR turbo has a potential packaging advantage in that it has an internal wastegate. But the physically longer CHRA and huge turbine and compressor casting does require some compromises with the rest of the kit to make it fit. We had a few EFR turbos on hand during the development process so we've looked at everything from a number of different angles, both figuratively and literally. In the end, fitting a custom turbo kit in a car requires some compromises. It's just a matter of picking the lesser of two evils from time to time.

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We dont have to pay off our credit cards if we're dead. Just sayin'.
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      04-23-2012, 11:46 PM   #85
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HPF should be banned for that travesty of a turbo kit they built over the last 20 years. Vishnu knows tuning but the FFTEC turbo kit leaves much to be desired in my opinion. If anyone gets the hardware right - it will be Full-Race.
You haven't seen the production kit pictures of our single turbo kit. Compared to the prototype system on our car, the runners are 50% shorter, more equal length and the merge is at a narrower angle. Don't see how much more of an improvement is possible given space constraints. And FWIW, the head fabricator at FFTEC used worked at Full Race. He's quite exceptional.

Using a mid to large frame EFR turbo has a potential packaging advantage in that it has an internal wastegate. But the physically longer CHRA and huge turbine and compressor casting does require some compromises with the rest of the kit to make it fit. We had a few EFR turbos on hand during the development process so we've looked at everything from a number of different angles, both figuratively and literally. In the end, fitting a custom turbo kit in a car requires some compromises. It's just a matter of picking the lesser of two evils from time to time.
Price?
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Price?
We will have a final price once we have the 6AT car fully tuned and running strong. We will not commit to a price until the entire development process is done. So far, we only have the 6MT fully sorted. The 6AT started up for the first time on Friday. Still several days of work ahead of us.

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      04-24-2012, 04:23 AM   #87
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this is promising
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      04-24-2012, 07:34 AM   #88
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We will have a final price once we have the 6AT car fully tuned and running strong. We will not commit to a price until the entire development process is done. So far, we only have the 6MT fully sorted. The 6AT started up for the first time on Friday. Still several days of work ahead of us.

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Is the AWD 6AT?? I'm personally interested in that one
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