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Terry335 · 06-19-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

No, you were wrong.

Do tell!! Is the ECU measuring map sensor current to seek out attenuators?

e.n335 · 06-19-2007, 12:45 PM

Guy's,

Testing of the new v1.4n map will start tomorrow. I'll keep you informed.

Cheers
Eugen

Terry335 · 06-19-2007, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Guy's,

Testing of the new v1.4n map will start tomorrow. I'll keep you informed.

Cheers
Eugen

Netherlands version?

e.n335 · 06-19-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

Netherlands version?

A software guy should know - n = number, not defined yet

e.n335 · 06-19-2007, 01:05 PM

Terry, when will you buy YOUR PROcede ?

RiXst3r · 06-19-2007, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Guy's,

Testing of the new v1.4n map will start tomorrow. I'll keep you informed.

Cheers
Eugen

Does the new MAP address these issues? If so.. how so?

e.n335 · 06-19-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Does the new MAP address these issues? If so.. how so?

Yes, this map addresses exactly the issue, assuming code is only triggered during cruise conditions and not under boost.

Terry335 · 06-19-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Terry, when will you buy YOUR PROcede ?

When I can use the Haltech software to modify my own maps.

e.n335 · 06-19-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

When I can use the Haltech software to modify my own maps.

So buy the Haltech geneneric version and develop your own 335i tune

Terry335 · 06-19-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

So buy the Haltech geneneric version and develop your own 335i tune

That's an option also. Developing my little ****** has proved to be a lot more fun. Assuming I get the desired result, I'll stick with that.

e.n335 · 06-19-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

That's an option also. Developing my little ****** has proved to be a lot more fun. Assuming I get the desired result, I'll stick with that.

It looks quite good for your efforts spent already. However, a out-of-the-box, underlaying and already developed hardware would be a big step on your way and enable you in what you like to do ...

Terry335 · 06-19-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

It looks quite good for your efforts spent already. However, a out-of-the-box, underlaying and already developed hardware would be a big step on your way and enable you in what you like to do ...

Sure, but then I'd just be another Shiv...

e.n335 · 06-19-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

Sure, but then I'd just be another Shiv...

Agree, but this is not the worst you could be

RiXst3r · 06-19-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Yes, this map addresses exactly the issue, assuming code is only triggered during cruise conditions and not under boost.

whats your plan for the other issues? I was building your little relay based procede bypass, but then now you say that it isnt needed... so I guess I wasted my time...

so how are all the power/standby issues going to be addressed? (pm is fine, I can keep a secret)

$error locationNr: 11757
$error locationtext: 2DED power management, standby current control
Error: 1(1) No.: 11757 2DED power management, standby current control frequency: 2
error type: 8 (4286 ) standby current violation
readines Flag: (16 ) Test conditions fulfilled
error status: (32 ) failure presently not available, OBDon-board diagnosis not debounced
MIL - Status: (48) failure does not cause warning lamp show light (MIL)
P-Code: P160F Powermanagement No-Load Current Error F_LZ: 40
ambient text / entry at 84xx km(2.) 84xx km(1.)
time with idle current 80 - 200 mA 0.00 min 3091.20 min
time with idle current 200 - 1000 mA 0.00 min 74.67 min
time with idle current larger than 1000 mA 0.00 min 0.00 min
voltage Kl. 87 0.00 V 11.98 V

Terry335 · 06-19-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

whats your plan for the other issues? PM is fine, I was building your little relay based procede bypass, but then now you say that it isnt needed... so I guess I wasted my time...

so how are all the power/standby issues going to be addressed? (pm is fine, I can keep a secret)

$error locationNr: 11757
$error locationtext: 2DED power management, standby current control
Error: 1(1) No.: 11757 2DED power management, standby current control frequency: 2
error type: 8 (4286 ) standby current violation
readines Flag: (16 ) Test conditions fulfilled
error status: (32 ) failure presently not available, OBDon-board diagnosis not debounced
MIL - Status: (48) failure does not cause warning lamp show light (MIL)
P-Code: P160F Powermanagement No-Load Current Error F_LZ: 40
ambient text / entry at 84xx km(2.) 84xx km(1.)
time with idle current 80 - 200 mA 0.00 min 3091.20 min
time with idle current 200 - 1000 mA 0.00 min 74.67 min
time with idle current larger than 1000 mA 0.00 min 0.00 min
voltage Kl. 87 0.00 V 11.98 V

That is an interesting error. Was that pulled using BMW specific software or generic ODBII software?

If I had to guess I'd say the ECU monitors current when in standby, and with the procede the sensors that are attenuated (o2 sensors & map sensor) are "leaking" at zero RPM. Relays (or transistor base adjustments) on the hardware would solve this problem. On the software side they might be able to add current in to those sensors @ 0rpm to cancel the bleed.

RiXst3r · 06-19-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

That is an interesting error. Was that pulled using BMW specific software or generic ODBII software?

If I had to guess I'd say the ECU monitors current when in standby, and with the procede the sensors that are attenuated (o2 sensors & map sensor) are "leaking" at zero RPM. Relays (or transistor base adjustments) on the hardware would solve this problem. On the software side they might be able to add current in to those sensors @ 0rpm to cancel the bleed.

That was pulled from a stock car with nothing but procede, with the bmw computer... I stole it from another thread

e.n335 · 06-19-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

That was pulled from a stock car with nothing but procede, with the bmw computer... I stole it from another thread

The error says that the car is consuming more power while shut off as it should. Nothing more. Now you can think about why ...

Plug out your cell-phones

!

e.n335 · 06-19-2007, 03:09 PM

Back to topic.

I have 1024 man-years experience in saving BMW electrical power and I developed a solution how you can hook up the PROcede to switched power and wake it up when the ECU wakes up to check the sensors, usually every 14 minutes.

As everytime, I invested a lot of time and efforts. It's not my fault when it's the same solution as AA does it with the Xede, it's just what I found working best.

Sounds familiar, huh ?

I will come up with this next weekend.

RiXst3r · 06-19-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

The error says that the car is consuming more power while shut off as it should. Nothing more. Now you can think about why ...

Plug out your cell-phones

!

actually, interior power socket is disabled when the car is off... no cell phone charging allowed

Nexus-6 · 06-25-2007, 06:37 PM

I just read about 1.47 coming out this week to address the limp mode. Kudos to Shiv and crew for responding to this quickly!

michael_ro · 05-15-2012, 12:36 PM

I just got the same error code from my car. P160F. 177 times.
The only symptom/problem on my car is that my RPM slightly fluctuates after the car warms up.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11805795
Any ideas?

michael_ro · 05-15-2012, 12:37 PM

I got 3 codes:
P0102
P14C3
P160F
Does any one have a list of all the trouble codes explicanations?

06-19-2007, 12:45 PM	#90
e.n335 Moderator Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH Posts: 4,482 iTrader: (0)	new PROcede map Guy's, Testing of the new v1.4n map will start tomorrow. I'll keep you informed. Cheers Eugen __________________ Not more than 500 chp for my daily driver. Well, ... .

06-19-2007, 01:05 PM	#93
e.n335 Moderator Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH Posts: 4,482 iTrader: (0)	Terry, when will you buy YOUR PROcede ? __________________ Not more than 500 chp for my daily driver. Well, ... .

06-19-2007, 03:09 PM	#106
e.n335 Moderator Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH Posts: 4,482 iTrader: (0)	Back to topic. I have 1024 man-years experience in saving BMW electrical power and I developed a solution how you can hook up the PROcede to switched power and wake it up when the ECU wakes up to check the sensors, usually every 14 minutes. As everytime, I invested a lot of time and efforts. It's not my fault when it's the same solution as AA does it with the Xede, it's just what I found working best. Sounds familiar, huh ? I will come up with this next weekend. __________________ Not more than 500 chp for my daily driver. Well, ... .

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06-25-2007, 06:37 PM	#108
Nexus-6 Private First Class Drives: '07 BMW 335i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wherever there is hockey Posts: 170 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	I just read about 1.47 coming out this week to address the limp mode. Kudos to Shiv and crew for responding to this quickly!

05-15-2012, 12:36 PM	#109
michael_ro Enlisted Member Drives: 325i E90 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bucharest Posts: 32 iTrader: (0)	I just got the same error code from my car. P160F. 177 times. The only symptom/problem on my car is that my RPM slightly fluctuates after the car warms up. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11805795 Any ideas?

05-15-2012, 12:37 PM	#110
michael_ro Enlisted Member Drives: 325i E90 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Bucharest Posts: 32 iTrader: (0)	I got 3 codes: P0102 P14C3 P160F Does any one have a list of all the trouble codes explicanations?