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      05-16-2012, 08:00 PM   #23
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while it's not fun in traffic, it's definitely not a burden
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      05-16-2012, 08:10 PM   #24
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The myth about MT being a problem in traffic is just one of those "sounds right" myths invented and propagated by those who have never driven MT and hate themselves for it. How you managed to get your leg to hurt is beyond me.

MT is operated on automatic, subconscious level, meaning that it is never a problem, traffic or not. People who drive MT cars on the daily basis simply never notice the fact that MT is actually "manual". If you drive MT and notice that it diverts your attention or requires excessive physical effort, then you are doing something wrong.

The only real problem with MT for novice drivers is uphill starts. But that is quickly learned. As for traffic... The issue with driving MT in traffic is fake, it simply doesn't exist in real life.


I dont even think about it. I'm just driving.
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      05-16-2012, 08:14 PM   #25
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People have mentioned picking the right gear and just using that one gear...and that can get you through a lot of it if you do it right. Second is frequently the right gear. Another trick I use is when it's obvious that I'm going to have to come to a stop I take it out of gear without using the clutch and don't touch the clutch until it's time to move again. Uses a lot less leg muscle.
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      05-16-2012, 08:19 PM   #26
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I usually would prefer a stick in traffic because I can let the engine slow me down rather than riding the brakes so much. Although, I did have A car once with such a stiff clutch that a traffic jam of a couple hours would annoy me, but daily heavy traffic, even when I lived in tampA, never once had me thinking about wanting an automatic. That being said, I have an automatic now thinking it would be better for family driving, and I can't stand it! Its so boring and heavy traffic still sucks.
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      05-16-2012, 08:41 PM   #27
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To be honest, I miss driving a MT in traffic. Work out them leg muss-kulls!
pfffft.
It's called squats yo!
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      05-16-2012, 09:00 PM   #28
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I usually would prefer a stick in traffic because I can let the engine slow me down rather than riding the brakes so much. Although, I did have A car once with such a stiff clutch that a traffic jam of a couple hours would annoy me, but daily heavy traffic, even when I lived in tampA, never once had me thinking about wanting an automatic. That being said, I have an automatic now thinking it would be better for family driving, and I can't stand it! Its so boring and heavy traffic still sucks.
I-275 at rush hour is the worst
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      05-16-2012, 09:04 PM   #29
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You know, any activity - even a favorite - becomes tedious when you do it too much. And that includes driving a stick.
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      05-16-2012, 09:48 PM   #30
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I've been driving a stick DD for years now. I would never....ever...get an auto again. Like everyone's said....traffic sucks no matter what. I had Mustang GT I had years back that had a very stiff clutch and at times it would get annoying and even then I still would get an auto. If you suck at stick...BMW gives you brake assist to make your life that much easier on a hill.
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      05-16-2012, 10:29 PM   #31
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Consider yourself lucky. I loved driving a stick. But somehow I ended up partially disabled in my left (clutch) leg. And now I have no choice but to drive an auto.

Fortunately for me, the 7sp DCT in my IS gives me plenty to play with.
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      05-16-2012, 11:08 PM   #32
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I've commuted into both DC and into NYC with manuals. True, the traffic was awful. But it would still be awful with an automatic.

I will drive a stick shift until they pry it from my cold, dead hand.
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      05-16-2012, 11:22 PM   #33
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I live in Los Angeles, so EVERY day is stop and go. Wouldn't give up my 6-MT for anything. I've gotten used to the ebb and flow, lots of times I just sit in 2nd or 3rd for most of the trip. Easy to modulate to keep with the flow of traffic.
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      05-17-2012, 12:43 AM   #34
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DD manual is fun, if you are used to it it becomes a second nature trafficc is not as bad as other cities speacially in South America where traffic is stressful with everyone jumping in front of you paying no attention to traffic laws.
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      05-17-2012, 01:12 AM   #35
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The solution to all of this is to own 2 cars. A beater commuter car in automatic Camry/Corolla/Civic. And a fun weekend car 1M comes to mind.
that's what i actually have - the civic when i know the traffic is going to be heavy, or, i'm not sure there will be good&safe place to park.
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      05-17-2012, 01:40 AM   #36
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auto-tragic? Would you like a box of tampons with that Vagina?
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      05-17-2012, 10:11 AM   #37
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My DD is a 7DCT but the 330Ci is a 6MT. The clutch is the lightest I have ever owned & a non-factor as a DD.

Drove a modified street/strip 4MT big block 67 Corvette from the Jersey Shore to Wall Street for a lot of years with no notice of the clutch even in Fri/Mon beach traffic during the summer. Man Up.
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      05-17-2012, 10:16 AM   #38
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I DD my 330i and when I hit the traffic I just pop over to the far right lane, second gear and let it coast. I get some ugly looks sometimes, but that's Northern VA for you. I had a lightly track prepped Integra that I daily'd for over a year and that was nasty at times because of the stiff clutch and suspension.
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auto-tragic? Would you like a box of tampons with that Vagina?


Somebody finally said it!
I usually ask them if it hurts when they do that. "Hurts what?"..."Your vagina!"
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      05-17-2012, 10:35 AM   #40
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I DD a manual. There's no pain. The E90 clutch is light as a feather.
This.

Additionally, on a relatively flat road the 335i will go 6MPH in 1st gear at an engine (idle) speed of 700RPM. Most "bumper to bumper" highway traffic is moving at least 6MPH, so a 6MT driver can control his/her speed using the right foot without needing to depress the clutch or brake very often.
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      05-17-2012, 10:55 AM   #41
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I have owned about a dozen cars, and my current e92 is the first Auto I have owned. Personally, I do miss having a manual but not enough to sell the car. I often enjoy having an auto especially driving to and from work.

That being said, I never had an issue having a manual as my DD - except with an old Talon AWD TSI with an ACT 2600lbs clutch - it felt like I was doing leg presses every shift.
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