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      05-20-2012, 01:15 PM   #1
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The new Indy cars.

I'm a fan of most racing. Even if I don't know alot about the particular type. The new Indy car design is stupendous from a technological and safety standpoint. The looks of 'em have alot to be desired. I can get over that but what I can't get over is the turbocharged V6's. Though EXTREMELY fast, THEY SOUND LIKE SHIT. I'm watching NBC and keep expecting that V8 roar and instead I hear a vacuum cleaner. It seems soulless.
I would tie this in with upcoming M3/4 but what's the point.
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Miss the V8 roar? Wait till you hear a clip of the old V10s... You know, the ones that were produced from the same foundry as the S85 symphony orchestra in the old M5/6
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I agree, the new cars are butt-ugly and sound like crap. I can't think of any V-6 that sounds good. If they wanged out to 20,000 rpm they'd sound good.

Indy cars for years now have basically been spec racers, so I'm already jaded, but the newest cars just look gahay-hay.

That said, anything going 200mph-plus is cool, but I grew up watching racing when there was variety, lots of different designs, engines, tires.

F1 still has most of the aspects I love about racing.
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Same with the F1 cars IMO!
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Same with the F1 cars IMO!
Yeah, F1 is going from 2.4 litre V8's to 1.6 litre FI V6's. That's gonna suck IMO too.
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Indycar never had V10's. Their hayday of CART were turbo V8's which were awesome. Close to 1000 hp and much less down force than today.

I do think the new cars look a bit funky, but they look pretty cool as well. Their sound is decent I think, sounds like the late 80's early 90's Turbo F1 cars.
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Yeah, F1 is going from 2.4 litre V8's to 1.6 litre FI V6's. That's gonna suck IMO too.
I miss the V10s and V12s
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Me Too! I miss the good old days.

I thought I read that they were going to turbo 4 bangers in 2013.


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From next year the DW12 Indycar will look different, the teams will be able to design and use their own sidepods, engine cowling and front and rear aero.
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From next year the DW12 Indycar will look different, the teams will be able to design and use their own sidepods, engine cowling and front and rear aero.
Doubtful considering the strict restrictions on body configurations...
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It's not doubtful it's what is actually going to happen, for 2012 season the standard Dallara aero package is being used by all teams, from 2013 the teams will be able to use their own aero kit. If a team decides to manufacture a kit they then have to offer it for sale to other teams, Chevy, Lotus and Penske are all developing kits.
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this is all conjecture without links
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Here you go.

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Under the new ICONIC regulations, all teams will compete with a core rolling chassis, called the "IndyCar Safety Cell", developed by Italian designer Dallara. Teams will then outfit the chassis with separate body work, referred to as "Aero Kits", which consist of front and rear wings, sidepods, and engine cowlings. Development of Aero Kits is open to any manufacturer, with all packages to be made available to all teams for a maximum price. ICONIC committee member Tony Purnell gave an open invitation to car manufacturers and companies such as Lockheed Martin and GE to develop kits.

The IndyCar Safety cell will be capped at a price of $349,000 and will be assembled at a new Dallara facility in Speedway, Indiana. Aero Kits will be capped at $70,000. Teams have the option of buying a complete Dallara safety cell/aero kit for a discounted price.

On May 12, 2011, Dallara unveiled the first concept cars, one apiece in oval and road course Aero Kit configuration.

On April 30, 2011, IndyCar owners voted 15–0 to reject the introduction of multiple Aero Kits for the 2012 season, citing costs. Owners expressed their desire to introduce the new chassis/engines for 2012, but have all participants use the Dallara aerodynamic package in 2012, and delay the introduction of multiple aero kits until 2013. On August 14, 2011, IndyCar confirmed that the introduction of multiple Aero Kits would be delayed until 2013 for "economic reasons". Chevrolet and Lotus had already announced their intention to build aero kits
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The aero kit concept was announced along with the introduction of the 2012 Dallara chassis in July 2010 to allow visible bodywork diversity. Cars will be differentiated by their shape, with the car name incorporating the supplier for brand identity.

“We’ve had great interest from multiple companies,” said Will Phillips, vice president of technology, INDYCAR. “Some companies may see this as exciting training for their engineers or as a means to showcase their hardware for aerodynamic development. Others, such as automotive companies, may see this as a way to enhance their North American brand presence.”

Approved suppliers will design and develop the aero kits, and, upon INDYCAR approval, may charge teams a maximum of $75,000 per complete kit. Dallara officials had previously said it will not make an aero kit.

“I think each one of the manufacturers, both Honda and Chevrolet, are committed to doing aero packages,” Team Penske owner Roger Penske said. “We obviously will be recipients of the Chevrolet package. I think that's going to be interesting.

“I'm really happy the series made the decision to have new cars and engines this year, and then we can have the aero kits for 2013, which will be another exciting time for the fans. We didn't know what we had in cars and engines until now. The aero kits will be an added advantage for the sport and interest as we go into 2013.”

Areas open for development for road/street/short ovals include sidepods, front- and rear-wing endplates, flaps and the engine cover. The Speedway configuration includes sidepods, front- and rear-wing endplates and the engine cover.

No IZOD IndyCar Series entrant may run more than three homologated aero kits within the two-year period, with one being the 2012 Dallara road/street/short oval and superspeedway aero kit.

A list of approved suppliers will be announced in June by INDYCAR, with on-track testing tentatively scheduled for January 2013.
http://www.indycar.com/News/2012/05-...moving-forward
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