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      05-22-2012, 06:28 AM   #45
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OP, as ihpj mentioned, go for legal advice.

Your solicitor should contact relevant police department and should be able to find, why are they intending to prosecute you?

A good solicitor should be able to get some useful information from the police and should try to mention your side of story that you were not there for racing or dangerous driving.

I know somebody who had a similar letter and with legal help, he ended up going for a driving awareness course only.

Hope that helps.
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No need for a solicitor yet as you don't know any details. Reply to the letter and see what punishment you are getting and then decide if legal help needed. If its going to court then you def need a solicitor.
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There are plenty of legal cases where it is one persons word against another. Thats where the solicitors and barristers aim to discredit the liar and the Judges tend to be pretty astute in working out who is lying. In a case such as this the driver of the car would have all the work to do to prove his innocence as the complianant will be believed pretty quickly, why would someone go to all the bother of reporting someone they don't know and have to endure court etc.

Having said all that this seems more likely a spot by a Policeman rather than another member of public.
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There are plenty of legal cases where it is one persons word against another. Thats where the solicitors and barristers aim to discredit the liar and the Judges tend to be pretty astute in working out who is lying. In a case such as this the driver of the car would have all the work to do to prove his innocence as the complianant will be believed pretty quickly, why would someone go to all the bother of reporting someone they don't know and have to endure court etc.

Having said all that this seems more likely a spot by a Policeman rather than another member of public.
It's from a police man. He took loads number plates down. That's what I found out. This dude was telling me 7 of his mates even got it and he wasn't even on that road where the racing happens and I didn't even go pass the road where racing happen. Because I remember loads cars drive pass him on a other road he was just park on this main road on the side and he wasn't hard to spot as he had his blues on and park on the side
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[quote=makkan00;12011236]I know somebody who had a similar letter and with legal help, he ended up going for a driving awareness course only.

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When I say that, it means even without going to court. His solicitor has persuaded officer not to prosecute the defendent but to send him on driving awarensess course. And sensible officer would realize that giving somebody a chance to improve his conduct is far better than sending defendent to court to be prosecuted.

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OP, as ihpj mentioned, go for legal advice.

Your solicitor should contact relevant police department and should be able to find, why are they intending to prosecute you?

A good solicitor should be able to get some useful information from the police and should try to mention your side of story that you were not there for racing or dangerous driving.

I know somebody who had a similar letter and with legal help, he ended up going for a driving awareness course only.

Hope that helps.
Cheers pal for all the information. Am going to the solicitor tomorrow and one of the dude who got the letter called up police and the copper had to phone him at 14:00 today. So i will ask him and see what they said
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I know somebody who had a similar letter and with legal help, he ended up going for a driving awareness course only.

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When I say that, it means even without going to court. His solicitor has persuaded officer not to prosecute the defendent but to send him on driving awarensess course. And sensible officer would realize that giving somebody a chance to improve his conduct is far better than sending defendent to court to be prosecuted.

Just a thought, as it worked and worked spot on!
I shouldn't even go there as I didn't doo any thing wrong. I wasn't racing. I just drove passed police car. I didn't break no rules. I will have to wait and see
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You have 28 days to furnish the info. There should be a telephone number on their somewhere for the traffic criminal justice unit. Personally I'd either call or write to ask for more information regarding the alleged offence as you'd still have time to send that letter back in.

Personally I've never known blanket NIP's. Only if evidence exists, but I'm not saying it doesn't happen.

I've known sec.59 notices to be abused and they shouldn't be.
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It's from a police man. He took loads number plates down. That's what I found out. This dude was telling me 7 of his mates even got it and he wasn't even on that road where the racing happens and I didn't even go pass the road where racing happen. Because I remember loads cars drive pass him on a other road he was just park on this main road on the side and he wasn't hard to spot as he had his blues on and park on the side
Hey fella, sorry to hear about your predicament. Maybe its just a case of wrong place, wrong time. Still though it seems silly because the other people there who were racing, did they not see the police there?!

Is it a private road or someting? Do you have any pics of the place?

And do you have your wheels now? Still waiting to see the jap and euro fusion.

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You have 28 days to furnish the info. There should be a telephone number on their somewhere for the traffic criminal justice unit. Personally I'd either call or write to ask for more information regarding the alleged offence as you'd still have time to send that letter back in.

Personally I've never known blanket NIP's. Only if evidence exists, but I'm not saying it doesn't happen.

I've known sec.59 notices to be abused and they shouldn't be.
Well one of the other person who got the letter calle up the station yesterday and the police officer was meant to call him at 2 today which never happen and it's 9:30 and I asked him if he got a call and he said no.

Am going to go speak to my lawyer tomorrow.

If we where racing or speeding stop us. Plus no would speed pass a cop car.
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hi there girls and guys. hope your all well.

this morning i got a letter from the police saying

i "took part in a race/speed trial between motor vehicles on a public highway".
i was on that road but i wasn't racing, normally people race on that road. and i didnt see any police cars there to take my number plate.

and it says on the letter.

" i am required to serve this notice upon you, but it does not necssarily mean that proceeding will be taken for any offences mentioned above. if proceeding are decided upon, process will be served upon you in due course. if proceedings are not to be taken you will be notified as soon as possible.

has any one had a letter like this before? and got in trouble?

do you think i will get in trouble?

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It's from a police man. He took loads number plates down. That's what I found out. This dude was telling me 7 of his mates even got it and he wasn't even on that road where the racing happens and I didn't even go pass the road where racing happen. Because I remember loads cars drive pass him on a other road he was just park on this main road on the side and he wasn't hard to spot as he had his blues on and park on the side
There are some inconsistencies in your posts, did you or did you not see the Policeman?
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Hey fella, sorry to hear about your predicament. Maybe its just a case of wrong place, wrong time. Still though it seems silly because the other people there who were racing, did they not see the police there?!

Is it a private road or someting? Do you have any pics of the place?

And do you have your wheels now? Still waiting to see the jap and euro fusion.

All the best

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Everyone stop when they see the police and they drive to this chippy car park and I was going to get some food and so he took my number plate down to

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There are some inconsistencies in your posts, did you or did you not see the Policeman?
Yeah how you showed it there would make it confusing.

So I will explain.

On the road where the racing happens there was no police and on the letter it says I was on that road.

To get the chippy I was going to I have to go pass the road where racing happens and then turn on other where you cant race and that's where the marked BMW police car was.

If you look at the post it does say there, the police officer wasn't on the road where the racing happens, he was on other road

Does this answer Your question
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I'm a bit confused too. We're you with the guys that were racing?

Just because you did not see police there, doesn't mean they weren't looking. If an area becomes notorious for racing then don't be surprised if a pre planned op gets put in to target those putting people at risk.

To be fair to you, I'd not say anything else about the matter until-
A) You know if a prosecution will be mounted or not. And
B) You have sought legal advice.
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I'm a bit confused too. We're you with the guys that were racing?

Just because you did not see police there, doesn't mean they weren't looking. If an area becomes notorious for racing then don't be surprised if a pre planned op gets put in to target those putting people at risk.

To be fair to you, I'd not say anything else about the matter until-
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Nope I wasn't with them I don't any of them or I wasn't racing. If I was racing etc. I wouldnt of posted about all this, I saw most of them on nip forum and they where talking about the same letter I got on the same date etc.
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Nope I wasn't with them I don't any of them or I wasn't racing. If I was racing etc. I wouldnt of posted about all this, I saw most of them on nip forum and they where talking about the same letter I got on the same date etc.
This all sounds like a bit of a party, Is it like the Fast and Furious films? where there are crowds everywhere, and people "race for pinks"............? And afterwards no one goes for a burito, instead they opt for a fish and chips? and a can of ginger beer?
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Mate it does seem pretty clear that you was there to either participate or watch the street racing and not for food,
because you did not mention the chippy at all until last night.
If I was you id be very careful with how you proceed with this because if you tell any lies you will more than likely get caught.
If you know you've done wrong then hold your hands up but if you most defiantly did not do anything then fight it.
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Business Edition, I was getting at you, just offering you some advice mate
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I think you were racing, why else are you so keen to see your lawyer before you even have details of the offence. all they have asked so far is to know who was driving.
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I've read the other thread and guess what your mate was going for something to eat hmmmmmm
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