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      05-26-2012, 06:46 PM   #67
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vettel's win at monaco last year was pure luck. Vettel's tires had cliffed - due to poor strategy on Red Bull's part or poor tire care on Vettel's part. Then the red flag was thrown up.

Before the restart he was put on fresh rubber - and thus able to pull away at the green lights for what was essentially a 5 lap sprint race.


The red flag was the only reason he won as Button was catching him up massively before it.
you got a back to back double world champ in VET and he currently leads the driver championship with ALO, i dont think that's all luck...
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you got a back to back double world champ in VET and he currently leads the driver championship with ALO, i dont think that's all luck...
Dude, common. Read what I wrote before responding.

AT MONACO LAST YEAR which is the part of my statement that everyone seems to be omitting from their cursory glance at my argument for some reason.

Vettel would not have won had it not been for the red flag. He had either poor race strategy or he simply didnt conserve his tires well enough and his tires had fully cliffed with a few laps to go and Button, and I believe Alonso as well were catching him up exceptionally quickly, on the order of several seconds a lap, and both were well on their way to overtaking Vettel before race finish easily.


Had it not been for the rule where on red you can switch tires Vettel wouldve lost on the restart, because I know for a fact that Button was on relatively fresh tires.



Key words again, AT MONACO LAST YEAR.


I understand hes a double word champ, but he simply wouldnt have taken Monaco last year if it wasnt for the red flag late in the race, which was very lucky for the Red Bull team.


Sorry to bring out the caps lock and bold font, but seriously guys, read what I said before responding to something I didnt write.
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Dude, common. Read what I wrote.

AT MONACO LAST YEAR which is the part of my statement that everyone seems to be omitting from their cursory glance at my argument for some reason.

Vettel would not have won had it not been for the red flag. He had either poor race strategy or he simply didnt conserve his tires well enough and his tires had fully cliffed with a few laps to go and Button, and I believe Alonso as well were catching him up exceptionally quickly, on the order of several seconds a lap, and both were well on their way to overtaking Vettel before race finish easily.


Had it not been for the rule where on red you can switch tires Vettel wouldve lost on the restart, because I know for a fact that Button was on relatively fresh tires.



Key words again, AT MONACO LAST YEAR.


I understand hes a double word champ, but he simply wouldnt have taken Monaco last year if it wasnt for the red flag late in the race, which was very lucky for the Red Bull team.


Sorry to bring out the caps lock and bold font, but seriously guys, read what I said before responding to something I didnt write.
i did read what you wrote dude
and on post #60 you just said he was incredibly lucky last year
no reference to the monaco GP on that post
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Last year it was unfortunate that we didn't get to see BUT and ALO with couple laps fresher tyres breathing down the neck on VET. That'll give him the run for his money!

So close from a great race to an epic race!!!
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Back to back world championships - breaking many records along the way is not luck my friend
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i did read what you wrote dude
and on post #60 you just said he was incredibly lucky last year
no reference to the monaco GP on that post
And I made more than one post

I meant at Monaco in the first one, as Monaco was the context in which that exchange took place.

I even went so far as to clarify it in the post that you initially quoted, my meaning should not be lost on anybody that actually took the time to read more than one sentence.
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Last year it was unfortunate that we didn't get to see BUT and ALO with couple laps fresher tyres breathing down the neck on VET. That'll give him the run for his money!

So close from a great race to an epic race!!!
i forgot who crashed that brought out the red flag, PET @ piscine?
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i forgot who crashed that brought out the red flag, PET @ piscine?
Petrov and a Toro Rosso (cant remember which driver)
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Petrov and a Toro Rosso (cant remember which driver)
i must say it was quite a nail biting end to the race i couldnt get up to take a leak, BUT was on VET's ass yes and the crash was most opportune for VET to win it with the tyre change; i know a lot of people barked at the change but i wasnt complaining
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i must say it was quite a nail biting end to the race i couldnt get up to take a leak, BUT was on VET's ass yes and the crash was most opportune for VET to win it with the tyre change; i know a lot of people barked at the change but i wasnt complaining
People barked because its a stupid rule. A red flag means you pause the race. Changing tires while the cars are sitting on the grid isnt pausing the race.
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how many crashes has GRO been involved in this year?!?!?!?!?!
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how many crashes has GRO been involved in this year?!?!?!?!?!
i think youre confusing him with Maldonado


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Last year it was unfortunate that we didn't get to see BUT and ALO with couple laps fresher tyres breathing down the neck on VET. That'll give him the run for his money!

So close from a great race to an epic race!!!
Oh man I was hoping for something incredible to come out of one laps. I may be a tifosi, but is ALO holding up MAS? I feel like MAS is looking to last by him. He's having such a strong weekend (compared to what he's used to), and if he has a window he's going to make his move.
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did you hear his excuse for crashing?


"Uhh I was on the dirty side and locked up, then somebody crossed into my line"

Hey buddy, theres only one line into Turn 1 at Monaco.
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