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      06-21-2012, 11:37 PM   #287
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You should never buy CIC Navigation Systems from non-professional s (Ebay, Amazon, amateurs, etc.). Scroll below to read why! This important information will save you time and money, and most importantly, will you give you piece of mind!



1. Software:
When you buy from unknown and untrusted sources, you can never know what’s inside of the system. The software is often outdated and unsupported. A system with outdated software will give you limited functionalities, and it may cause compatibility issues with your vehicle. It will cost you additional money, to do the software upgrade, and most dealers will never do this type of work for you!
When you buy from Bimmer Retrofit, you always get the latest software and we guarantee that the system will be compatible with your vehicle
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2. Hardware:
When you buy from unknown and untrusted sources, you never know whether the equipment has been tested. You may be getting equipment that is not functioning properly or is not functioning at all! The seller does not provide warranty, and you may be stuck with equipment that is not good for anyone, except your nearest electronics recycling shop!
Moreover, the equipment may be damaged (with water for example) and if you install the equipment that has been flooded, into your vehicle, your vehicle may become damaged as well. We have been made aware of situations, when the vehicle’s electrical system was short circuited after one of such installations. As a result, vehicle owner lost his BMW warranty.
At Bimmer Retrofit, we carefully test every single unit before shipping to the customer and we always provide warranty on our products.

3. Remote coding
Never trust amateurs with coding your vehicle! In almost every case, when a vehicle is coded by non-professionals, BMW Dealer will refuse to retain the guarantee of your vehicle, because non-professionals have tempered with the vehicle’s electrical and/or software system. If this happens to you, you will be stuck with a $50,000+ vehicle with NO MANUFACTURER’s WARRANTY. And knowing how expensive repairs and maintenance can be, this is not the situation, in which you would want to find yourself.
In other instances, when a vehicle is coded by amateurs, your vehicle may become stationary, meaning it will be impossible to start the vehicle and drive it away, because the coding has been performed incorrectly. In these situations, the vehicle will need to be towed to dealership, which will be able to identify and eliminate the errors, and …. possibly remove your warranty. Not all dealers will perform this type of job to fix your vehicle after amateur’s coding! Those who will, will charge you a high price for the coding. Alternatively, Bimmer Retrofit can perform remote diagnostic and coding, but this will cost you much more than what you would have paid had you come to us at the beginning. We will need to do additional work to diagnose the error and we will have to charge extra for the emergency service.

4. Shipping and cosmetic condition of the products
More often than not, non-professionals do not properly prepare the products for shipping, and they arrive damaged. In addition, you do not have visibility of the products that you buy - the products can be scratched, rusted, cracked. If you are lucky, the seller will provide a replacement, but because usually the seller provides no guarantee, you will have wasted the money on the product that you cannot use or that is not aesthetically pleasing.
At Bimmer Retrofit, we have an established and trusted supply chain, that selects and supplies only the best after-market systems for our customers and we always take special care when preparing products for shipping to ensure that they arrive safely and are not damaged during shipping.


It is up to decide who you will buy your CIC Navigation System from, but we hope that this information will help you understand the total cost of ownership of your Navigation System and vehicle and will help you make an informed decision, so that you can be in control of your financial situation!
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      06-26-2012, 12:55 AM   #288
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I already have I drive in my 2006 330i. But I want the new interface. Is this just a software upgrade? How much would it cost? Thanks!
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I already have I drive in my 2006 330i. But I want the new interface. Is this just a software upgrade? How much would it cost? Thanks!
Unfortunately not. You need to replace your CCC System with a CIC System.
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do you provide the new monitor and DVD?
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      07-16-2012, 02:42 AM   #291
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i want to get the new one.
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do you provide the new monitor and DVD?
Each CIC kit includes new HD display and Head Unit module with DVD reader built in.
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      07-16-2012, 01:36 PM   #293
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I have a CIC 2010 production date 335i with navi. Do i just need the combox?
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      07-19-2012, 06:51 PM   #294
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I'll get one after the new iDrive is released and price drops on this one lol
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does this work for e90 from 07?
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I want the HDD interface. How do I go about installing this new software? Do I just need an activation code?
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I have a CIC 2010 production date 335i with navi. Do i just need the combox?
It depends what you desire to have as an options in your vehicle. Email us: info@bimmerretrofit.com and our customer service team will help you
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CIC kit can be installed in your vehicle as well as Combox Media.
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I want the HDD interface. How do I go about installing this new software? Do I just need an activation code?
Please email us at: info@bimmerretrofit.com and we will help you with your question.
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I would like to have a CIC in the future in mine E91 from 2005.
At this moment mine car have a CCC profi navi with BT.
Now mine problem, I have heard that when you need a complete software update that you have to put the old CCC back in the car otherwise it is not posible to get a complete update, is that true?
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I would like to have a CIC in the future in mine E91 from 2005.
At this moment mine car have a CCC profi navi with BT.
Now mine problem, I have heard that when you need a complete software update that you have to put the old CCC back in the car otherwise it is not posible to get a complete update, is that true?
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Yes this is correct - for your vehicle you will have to switch back to the older CCC system for any "serious" dealer visit such as programming, coding or warranty module replacement labors.

For the service visits such as oil or brakes change there is no need to remove CIC from your vehicle.

For more information please emails us at: info@bimmerretrofit.com

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Hi, I just joined the forum and I am really happy that I found this post - it seems like there are a lot of people here who know about CCC conversion...
I recently purchased a CIC from ebay in the hopes of converting my CCC to a newer version (I have 2007 335i). Ebay seller promised that it will work, but I keep getting red screen and can't make it work, the seller is not being helpfull at all. It's been a nightmare.. Does anyone have any clue as to what might be wrong? Is it the CIC? Is it the vehicle? Would dealer be able to help? Any help will be appreciated!
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Hi, I just joined the forum and I am really happy that I found this post - it seems like there are a lot of people here who know about CCC conversion...
I recently purchased a CIC from ebay in the hopes of converting my CCC to a newer version (I have 2007 335i). Ebay seller promised that it will work, but I keep getting red screen and can't make it work, the seller is not being helpfull at all. It's been a nightmare.. Does anyone have any clue as to what might be wrong? Is it the CIC? Is it the vehicle? Would dealer be able to help? Any help will be appreciated!
Who is the seller? It might be good to warn others.

I have not done the CIC retrofit, but you should post more details, so that others can help. Maybe the unit has more features and you need to code the car? Did you get the emulator or FSC code? Or is it just that the unit won't even turn on? Did you check the fuses? Reseat the cables, recheck all connections?
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Hi, I just joined the forum and I am really happy that I found this post - it seems like there are a lot of people here who know about CCC conversion...
I recently purchased a CIC from ebay in the hopes of converting my CCC to a newer version (I have 2007 335i). Ebay seller promised that it will work, but I keep getting red screen and can't make it work, the seller is not being helpfull at all. It's been a nightmare.. Does anyone have any clue as to what might be wrong? Is it the CIC? Is it the vehicle? Would dealer be able to help? Any help will be appreciated!
Hi freezer,

Welcome aboard. Please send us an email at info@bimmerretrofit.com explaining your problem, and we will be happy to look into it. We have done many CCC to CIC conversions and are familiar with issues that you may run into when purchasing used hardware from ebay sellers..

Thanks,

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Who is the seller? It might be good to warn others.

I have not done the CIC retrofit, but you should post more details, so that others can help. Maybe the unit has more features and you need to code the car? Did you get the emulator or FSC code? Or is it just that the unit won't even turn on? Did you check the fuses? Reseat the cables, recheck all connections?
It's a seller from Europe, I am now disputing the transaction with paypal/ebay.
The CIC does turn on, but the screen is red. I've checked all of the connections, everything is connected properly. The seller claimed that the FSC code is already imported into the CIC and it is plug and play. Apparently it is not.

I should be having a coding session with the Bimmer Retrofit guys later tonight. One of their engineers will take a look and hopefully will be able to help.
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Hi freezer,

Welcome aboard. Please send us an email at info@bimmerretrofit.com explaining your problem, and we will be happy to look into it. We have done many CCC to CIC conversions and are familiar with issues that you may run into when purchasing used hardware from ebay sellers..

Thanks,

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Thank you for you help, Kate, Chris and Alex - my red sreen issue is now resolved. As per your suggestion, I replaced the connector on the CID; waiting for the activation adapter from you. Thanks for all your help on your friday night! You guys rock!
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Thank you for you help, Kate, Chris and Alex - my red sreen issue is now resolved. As per your suggestion, I replaced the connector on the CID; waiting for the activation adapter from you. Thanks for all your help on your friday night! You guys rock!
Final update: the CIC system is working perfectly fine. PNP cable was shipped with express mail, received it on Wednesday. Everything is working! Thanks to Bimmer Retrofit for great service. Now I can enjoy life (my wife recently gave birth to a son)
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