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      06-28-2012, 12:46 AM   #45
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Please list PN or a link for both of those items.
I don't think you can get Meyle's toe arms. The US rep just hooked me up with 3 sets he specially ordered.

The problem with Powerflex is you have to buy a bundle of bushings for the rear control arms just to get the 4 bushings for the toe arms. I'll look into getting just the toe arm bushings.
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I had the M3 subframe bushings/front & rear sways/Quaife LSD all done at the same time. No difference in noise. Rear end still squirmed a bit though.
How much did this install cost you if you don't mind me asking?
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How much did this install cost you if you don't mind me asking?
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I don't think you can get Meyle's toe arms. The US rep just hooked me up with 3 sets he specially ordered.
Appears you're correct - in market test mode.

Megan Racing toe arms here - but steel & rubber give me pause. The diff vs. BMW's arms lies in method of adjustment.

So. Brings this ol' dog back to Ground Control vs HPA - is Ground Control the same design as HPA with dirt boots?
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Just installed these (toe arms from HPA) and I have to say they made a massive difference in rear steer/drift/push. I could execute a lane change at WOT within a few seconds before. 95% of the push is now gone. I may actually consider spending the $$ for an LSD now!

For the record - I did the Powerflex subframe inserts and while they aren't expensive and are an easy install, they really didn't help - with this issue at least.
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Just installed these (toe arms from HPA) and I have to say they made a massive difference in rear steer/drift/push. I could execute a lane change at WOT within a few seconds before. 95% of the push is now gone. I may actually consider spending the $$ for an LSD now!

For the record - I did the Powerflex subframe inserts and while they aren't expensive and are an easy install, they really didn't help - with this issue at least.
Good lord! You'll be well rewarded w/LSD....why no M3 bushings?
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Megan Racing toe arms here - but steel & rubber give me pause.
What? o_O
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In two weeks I will install the RE toe links I got from HPA. I sure hope I won't have to deal with clunking noises.

Don't the RE links come with sealed bushings to make them resistant to dirt?
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I know how you feel alot of vendors here sell inferior or knock off products.






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Sure wish I would have bought those instead
Wasted $300. plus labor and alignment
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I know how you feel alot of vendors here sell inferior or knock off products.
Yep. I'm done with HPA. I bought a Quaife LSD from Harold 4 years ago and many suspension components since; most recently these RE toe arms and M3 rear upper links. HPA sent me two left upper links, my car sat on a lift for an hour while I was at lunch for which the shop was going to charge me for their time, and he didn't have the courtesy to apologize for the shipping mistake. His actual response was defensive and contrite. These RE toe arms cost me $300. and didn't last 3 months. Harold's response is to charge me $30. per spherical joint and tell me I'm the only customer to have this problem. I expect better customer service and product after spending thousands of dollars at HPA over the past 4+ years. There, I feel better..
I'll check with YOU the next time I'm interested in a suspension component I see you haven't drank the HPA koolaid
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In two weeks I will install the RE toe links I got from HPA. I sure hope I won't have to deal with clunking noises.

Don't the RE links come with sealed bushings to make them resistant to dirt?
Send them back and get Megan Racing toe arms. You have to realign the suspension when you replace the toe arms.
The RE links have sealed bearings aka spherical joints; no bushings.
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Good lord! You'll be well rewarded w/LSD....why no M3 bushings?
I'm definitely going to start looking for the LSD now!

As far as the M3 bushings, I'm generally not that price sensitive if I think the end result is worth it and while M3 sub frame replacements are universally applauded, the install is expensive. I usually do my own work, but dropping the whole sub frame by myself on my daily driver was a bit much. The only local place I'd trust wanted close to $800 to install them. In fairness to them, they would have installed alot more than sub frame bushings without charging much more, but when I started adding up additional parts + the labor, I balked when I saw how easy it would be to sail past past $2k on rear suspension parts.

The Powerflex inserts were $175 or so and with the help of a great write-up in this section, I installed them myself in about 2 hours. You just have to lower the sub frame enough to slip them in. They may actually help, they just didn't help with this particular issue and I doubt the M3 sub frame bushings by themselves would have solved the rear push anyway.
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As far as the M3 bushings, I'm generally not that price sensitive if I think the end result is worth it and while M3 sub frame replacements are universally applauded, the install is expensive. I usually do my own work, but dropping the whole sub frame by myself on my daily driver was a bit much. The only local place I'd trust wanted close to $800 to install them. In fairness to them, they would have installed alot more than sub frame bushings without charging much more, but when I started adding up additional parts + the labor, I balked when I saw how easy it would be to sail past past $2k on rear suspension parts.
If never done before, daunting. But having done it myself, surprisingly easy!

That $800 should've included bushings, or it's a mojo rip. $250 [bushings] DIY if you got tools....

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Does anyone have first hand experience with the Megan Racing rear toe arms? They seem to be available for a pretty good price on ebay.
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Does anyone have first hand experience with the Megan Racing rear toe arms? They seem to be available for a pretty good price on ebay.
'Tres' and a couple other guys. 'Orb' recommended them too
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'Tres' and a couple other guys. 'Orb' recommended them too
I have a lot of HP on my car, so I do need something rugid. Have you heard any durability issues?
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WOW 654rwhp thats amazing Im done with my suspension so my goal is to get 400rwhp and im done modding lol. Anyways you already have some important mods the dss axles and lsd. I think you should get the delrin subframe and diff bushings for that monster n54. The megan arms are also great and designed for abuse. i have both toe and camber arms on my car for 1.5 years now and not even a squeak or clunk and the roads here are bad and I drive my car in the winter.


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WOW 654rwhp thats amazing Im done with my suspension so my goal is to get 400rwhp and im done modding lol. Anyways you already have some important mods the dss axles and lsd. I think you should get the delrin subframe and diff bushings for that monster n54. The megan arms are also great and designed for abuse. i have both toe and camber arms on my car for 1.5 years now and not even a squeak or clunk and the roads here are bad and I drive my car in the winter.
Tres, great info!!! Did you just order them from ebay? I think I am going to upgrade too. The work is only a few minutes of wrenching.
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Tres, great info!!! Did you just order them from ebay? I think I am going to upgrade too. The work is only a few minutes of wrenching.
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How do you like your GC coilovers? I assume it's the DA front/SA rear version? That's what I'm running plus Vorshlag camber plates, seems like only a few people are running GC coilovers

Looks like GC is not using spherical joint for their toe arms which is good, so I'm trying to decide between that and MR which is slightly cheaper
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Sorry for the OT Looks like GC is not using spherical joint for their toe arms which is good, so I'm trying to decide between that and MR which is slightly cheaper
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How do you like your GC coilovers? I assume it's the DA front/SA rear version? That's what I'm running plus Vorshlag camber plates, seems like only a few people are running GC coilovers

Looks like GC is not using spherical joint for their toe arms which is good, so I'm trying to decide between that and MR which is slightly cheaper
Ummmmmm....when I wanted to buy GC toe arms earlier this year, couldn't 'cause they were waiting for these.

Looks like a good unit for the job - what say ya'll?

As opposed to rubber....or HPA's....?

BTW I very much like my GC coilovers, yellows valved to GC's spec & matched to GC's Eibach springs. Also all M parts + LSD, however.

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