Huge Problem-help! (Solved: wire and fuse box connection issue SIB) - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

collegeguy60 · 08-01-2011, 12:10 AM

I drive a 2007 E90 328i with around 53k miles now.

Pulled up to fill up with gas... I turned my car off and filled it up like normal, nothing unusual at all. Got back in my car and nothing worked at all. No lights/horn/No start. Could not even pull my key out of the car/could not shift out of park/steering wheel still will turn though... (its acting if there is no battery connected at all) no sign of any type of electrical system on at all.

I had my volt meter and tested it... Volts were all normal. Tried to jump just incase and nothing worked at all..

Called BMW tow service and towed to my house... Its just sitting here broke still. Anyone had this problem? Any help at all?? Im going to be reading on here till I figure it out... going to try and tackle it in the morning but looking for ideas???

PLEASE HELP... so far I looked at a few of the fuses and tried to jump and that did not work... I had to move it so just got it towed to my house.

collegeguy60 · 08-01-2011, 12:12 AM

Would this just be a bad battery even though it read normal?

wesborl898 · 08-01-2011, 01:00 AM

I would check the trunk battery cables. Maybe they're loose

collegeguy60 · 08-01-2011, 01:04 AM

they are on there tight... This guy is having almost the exact same issue as me...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=bad+battery

v-tec this · 08-01-2011, 09:57 AM

maybe ur fuse on the battery cable in the truck blew. happened to me and cut all power to the car. pm me and i can help u figure out if thats the problem.

soflop · 08-01-2011, 10:12 AM

Check the main fuses.
Also, try to disconnect the battery for a while and then connect again. You'll never know, that might do something for you

JayKay335i · 08-01-2011, 10:34 AM

Try twisting the battery cables where they connect to the battery. I've had corrosion develop and while everything looked normal nothing worked. Once I twisted the cables on the battery terminal I broke the corrosion and everything worked fine.

Neutrino45 · 08-01-2011, 11:23 AM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549735

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=557678

collegeguy60 · 08-01-2011, 02:41 PM

Thanks... I tried ... fuses/battery tested/let it sit with battery out/connections...

I have no idea... BMW roadside assistance just came and got it and are taking it to the dealer to see whats wrong. They said they would look at it for free and the tow was free... Im just a lil over 50k now so dont have bumper to bumper... The car was a CPO though so they said they thought it could still be under warranty.

I will let you all know what happens, I know some others are having the same issue but cant find definite solutions.

SHATX · 08-01-2011, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by collegeguy60

Thanks... I tried ... fuses/battery tested/let it sit with battery out/connections...

I have no idea... BMW roadside assistance just came and got it and are taking it to the dealer to see whats wrong. They said they would look at it for free and the tow was free... Im just a lil over 50k now so dont have bumper to bumper... The car was a CPO though so they said they thought it could still be under warranty.

I will let you all know what happens, I know some others are having the same issue but cant find definite solutions.

Hit me up via PM and i can tell you how to get it started.

SHATX · 08-01-2011, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHATX

Hit me up via PM and i can tell you how to get it started.

In case anyone else needs the details on this new issue - i think i was the Guinea pig for this one 2 months ago

. SIB was just created a few weeks ago as this is becoming a real problem with age on the vehicle B+ wire and fuse box connection.

m@rco · 08-01-2011, 05:40 PM

I've had the exact same problem. I believe it occurred to me when hitting the start button too quickly after inserting the key (insufficiency deep or giving insufficient time for the electronics to recognize the key). The key then doesn't pop out because the electronics are "hung". Anyway, I solved the problem by disconnecting the battery for a few minutes.

I made the mistake by trying to disconnect the positive. That took a long time, dropped a nut behind the battery, ended up having to take out the battery, etc.. It was then when I noticed that disconnecting the minus would have been much easier...

Nowadays, I wait one second before hitting the start button. Hope this helps.

collegeguy60 · 08-22-2011, 07:49 PM

My problem is fixed now... it was exactly what SHATX said it was... printed off those bulletins and took them to bmw and they fixed it all.

It was the main wire that runs from the battery to the fuse box.
If anyone else if having the same issue or has questions hit me up.

Thanks!

hnekcivic · 09-07-2011, 12:51 AM

i just have the same prob that you had, i live in kansas city too, is there anyway you could tell me more info of what parts do i need to buy or anything that would help, thanks!

SHATX · 09-07-2011, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hnekcivic

i just have the same prob that you had, i live in kansas city too, is there anyway you could tell me more info of what parts do i need to buy or anything that would help, thanks!

Hers is my Thread on the issue. It will give you all the details. I am out if town in meetings all morning and then traveling home this afternoon and can follow up with later. But start with this thread

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549735

hnekcivic · 09-07-2011, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHATX

Hers is my Thread on the issue. It will give you all the details. I am out if town in meetings all morning and then traveling home this afternoon and can follow up with later. But start with this thread

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549735

i had read your thread already, great info, now time to get it fix, i go school for automotive so i has chance to get in alldata, easy to replace these parts, but i need to know where i can buy the fuse box and + cable for cheap? dealer want so much for it lol

SHATX · 09-07-2011, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hnekcivic

i had read your thread already, great info, now time to get it fix, i go school for automotive so i has chance to get in alldata, easy to replace these parts, but i need to know where i can buy the fuse box and + cable for cheap? dealer want so much for it lol

www.getbmwparts.com

NL73 · 09-30-2011, 08:53 AM

I had this issue back in November of '09, before anyone had heard of it. The dealer eventually figured it out and replaced the fusebox and B+ lead, but it cost me over $2,000. Then it started happening again a month ago, and i found the new servive bulletin saying the old B+ lead has a corrosion issue. In any case, i was lucky, another dealer replaced the fusebox (again) and newly designed lead - for free under a parts and labor warranty. Figured I'd let people know - I bought my car new in '07, about 2 years later the issue surfaced, then again just under 2 years later. Make sure you get the new B+ lead, supposedly has a silver connection that prevents corrosion. Otherwise, expect the issue every 2 years.

SyL3nTFoRcE · 07-12-2012, 07:01 PM

i know i am reviving an old thread!

But please tell me someone has the part number? this is happening to me and now my car is completely dead!

I tried searching up for the part but cant find the right part because im not sure what im looking for also.

C.D.335xi · 07-13-2012, 05:40 PM

The part numbers are in the PDF attachment in post #11 above

Quote:

Originally Posted by SyL3nTFoRcE

i know i am reviving an old thread!

But please tell me someone has the part number? this is happening to me and now my car is completely dead!

I tried searching up for the part but cant find the right part because im not sure what im looking for also.

AddictedToBavarian · 07-13-2012, 05:50 PM

I've heard of this before. Have to add this to possible issued that will happen.

SHATX · 07-14-2012, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SyL3nTFoRcE

i know i am reviving an old thread!

But please tell me someone has the part number? this is happening to me and now my car is completely dead!

I tried searching up for the part but cant find the right part because im not sure what im looking for also.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549735

08-01-2011, 12:10 AM	#1
collegeguy60 Private Drives: 2007 BMW 328i E90 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Kansas City Missouri Posts: 71 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 328i [0.00]	Huge Problem-help! (Solved: wire and fuse box connection issue SIB) I drive a 2007 E90 328i with around 53k miles now. Pulled up to fill up with gas... I turned my car off and filled it up like normal, nothing unusual at all. Got back in my car and nothing worked at all. No lights/horn/No start. Could not even pull my key out of the car/could not shift out of park/steering wheel still will turn though... (its acting if there is no battery connected at all) no sign of any type of electrical system on at all. I had my volt meter and tested it... Volts were all normal. Tried to jump just incase and nothing worked at all.. Called BMW tow service and towed to my house... Its just sitting here broke still. Anyone had this problem? Any help at all?? Im going to be reading on here till I figure it out... going to try and tackle it in the morning but looking for ideas??? PLEASE HELP... so far I looked at a few of the fuses and tried to jump and that did not work... I had to move it so just got it towed to my house. __________________ http://www.e90post.com/forums/e90garageimg/5978/3.jpg
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08-01-2011, 12:12 AM	#2
collegeguy60 Private Drives: 2007 BMW 328i E90 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Kansas City Missouri Posts: 71 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 328i [0.00]	Would this just be a bad battery even though it read normal? __________________ http://www.e90post.com/forums/e90garageimg/5978/3.jpg

08-01-2011, 01:04 AM	#4
collegeguy60 Private Drives: 2007 BMW 328i E90 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Kansas City Missouri Posts: 71 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 328i [0.00]	they are on there tight... This guy is having almost the exact same issue as me... http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=bad+battery __________________ http://www.e90post.com/forums/e90garageimg/5978/3.jpg

08-01-2011, 10:12 AM	#6
soflop 3o5 Drives: '07 328xi Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 154 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 328xi [0.00]	Check the main fuses. Also, try to disconnect the battery for a while and then connect again. You'll never know, that might do something for you __________________ Grey BMW car // nice red interior // little screen with map that gives me directions // 2 doors // 6 cylinders // wheels with spokes // transmission that shifts itself // NOT RWD // gray springs that kinda lower the car, not the original black ones // cool sunroof // black roof with racks to put bicycles and maybe coffins // darker than factory windows // black kidneys // cool blue round lights in the front

08-01-2011, 11:23 AM	#8
Neutrino45 Major Drives: XXX Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: milky way Posts: 1,443 iTrader: (2)	http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=549735 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=557678 __________________

08-01-2011, 01:00 AM	#3
wesborl898 Lieutenant Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 542 iTrader: (3)	I would check the trunk battery cables. Maybe they're loose

08-01-2011, 09:57 AM	#5
v-tec this Private First Class Drives: 2008 e92 335i AW Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: LAX- SoCal Posts: 110 iTrader: (6)	maybe ur fuse on the battery cable in the truck blew. happened to me and cut all power to the car. pm me and i can help u figure out if thats the problem.

08-01-2011, 10:34 AM	#7
JayKay335i Banned Drives: ///M323 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Dakota; its best DUHHHHHH Posts: 5,049 iTrader: (1)	Try twisting the battery cables where they connect to the battery. I've had corrosion develop and while everything looked normal nothing worked. Once I twisted the cables on the battery terminal I broke the corrosion and everything worked fine.

08-01-2011, 02:41 PM	#9
collegeguy60 Private Drives: 2007 BMW 328i E90 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Kansas City Missouri Posts: 71 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 328i [0.00]	Thanks... I tried ... fuses/battery tested/let it sit with battery out/connections... I have no idea... BMW roadside assistance just came and got it and are taking it to the dealer to see whats wrong. They said they would look at it for free and the tow was free... Im just a lil over 50k now so dont have bumper to bumper... The car was a CPO though so they said they thought it could still be under warranty. I will let you all know what happens, I know some others are having the same issue but cant find definite solutions. __________________ http://www.e90post.com/forums/e90garageimg/5978/3.jpg

08-01-2011, 05:40 PM	#12
m@rco Private First Class Drives: 328i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: The Hague, The Netherlands Posts: 197 iTrader: (0)	I've had the exact same problem. I believe it occurred to me when hitting the start button too quickly after inserting the key (insufficiency deep or giving insufficient time for the electronics to recognize the key). The key then doesn't pop out because the electronics are "hung". Anyway, I solved the problem by disconnecting the battery for a few minutes. I made the mistake by trying to disconnect the positive. That took a long time, dropped a nut behind the battery, ended up having to take out the battery, etc.. It was then when I noticed that disconnecting the minus would have been much easier... Nowadays, I wait one second before hitting the start button. Hope this helps.

08-22-2011, 07:49 PM	#13
collegeguy60 Private Drives: 2007 BMW 328i E90 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Kansas City Missouri Posts: 71 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 328i [0.00]	My problem is fixed now... it was exactly what SHATX said it was... printed off those bulletins and took them to bmw and they fixed it all. It was the main wire that runs from the battery to the fuse box. If anyone else if having the same issue or has questions hit me up. Thanks! __________________ http://www.e90post.com/forums/e90garageimg/5978/3.jpg

09-07-2011, 12:51 AM	#14
hnekcivic Private Drives: 2007 328xi Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: kansas city, mo Posts: 99 iTrader: (0)	need help!! i just have the same prob that you had, i live in kansas city too, is there anyway you could tell me more info of what parts do i need to buy or anything that would help, thanks!

09-30-2011, 08:53 AM	#18
NL73 Registered Drives: 2007 328xi Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 2 iTrader: (0)	I had this issue back in November of '09, before anyone had heard of it. The dealer eventually figured it out and replaced the fusebox and B+ lead, but it cost me over $2,000. Then it started happening again a month ago, and i found the new servive bulletin saying the old B+ lead has a corrosion issue. In any case, i was lucky, another dealer replaced the fusebox (again) and newly designed lead - for free under a parts and labor warranty. Figured I'd let people know - I bought my car new in '07, about 2 years later the issue surfaced, then again just under 2 years later. Make sure you get the new B+ lead, supposedly has a silver connection that prevents corrosion. Otherwise, expect the issue every 2 years.

07-12-2012, 07:01 PM	#19
SyL3nTFoRcE Private First Class Drives: 318>328i>328i>328ci>328xi Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Stamford Ct Posts: 146 iTrader: (0)	i know i am reviving an old thread! But please tell me someone has the part number? this is happening to me and now my car is completely dead! I tried searching up for the part but cant find the right part because im not sure what im looking for also.

07-13-2012, 05:50 PM	#21
AddictedToBavarian My other ride is a Bianchi Infinito Drives: E92 328xi Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: North Jersey Posts: 2,572 iTrader: (0)	I've heard of this before. Have to add this to possible issued that will happen.

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