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      04-16-2012, 03:45 PM   #1
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hello, i want to get camber plates. i know about like Vorshlag but i dont want adjustable ones because of the price. i know Dinan makes ones that allow an extra -0.07 of camber. but i was curious if there are any non-adjustable camber plates that will allow me to have like -3 camber. thanks
No, not likely. You could make them on your own just like Dinan did.
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ok so know one makes camber plates that allow like -3 camber? only the adjustable ones are able to do that?
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ok so know one makes camber plates that allow like -3 camber? only the adjustable ones are able to do that?
As fas as I know only adjustable ones can get you to -3.
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on Vorshlag's website i see that i have to select a few options but i dont see my setup listed. i have an 08 335xi coupe. but it is on Bilstein B8 sport shocks and H&R sport springs for the 335(i) not the (XI)
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on Vorshlag's website i see that i have to select a few options but i dont see my setup listed. i have an 08 335xi coupe. but it is on Bilstein B8 sport shocks and H&R sport springs for the 335(i) not the (XI)
Do you have a photos of the shaft profile on the Bistein strut?

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Do you have a photos of the shaft profile on the Bistein strut?

http://www.hpashop.com/Vorshlag-E82-...es-e82-e9x.htm

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no i dont. on Vorshlag's website it doesnt just say Bilstein as an option. it says Bilstein Pss9 or something like that. it doesnt say the shocks i have it just seems to be for coilovers.
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If we (Vorshlag) don't have it on our page, it's because we don't have measurements for that strut. Email us at info@vorshlag.com and I'll send you examples of the measurements we need to set up the camber plate for your struts.

And we will add it to the options menu.
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If we (Vorshlag) don't have it on our page, it's because we don't have measurements for that strut. Email us at info@vorshlag.com and I'll send you examples of the measurements we need to set up the camber plate for your struts.

And we will add it to the options menu.
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Between Dinan, GC and Vorshlag, who makes the best plates for aggressive street use on coil overs(I plan to get either the JRZ RS1 or Ohlins R&T) and why?
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Are these required when you go low? Just curious as to why they would be needed.
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Between Dinan, GC and Vorshlag, who makes the best plates for aggressive street use on coil overs(I plan to get either the JRZ RS1 or Ohlins R&T) and why?
I have the RS1 and JRZ actually recommends the Ground Control plates. I have them in my car and they're beautiful. The extra camber is a great handling asset on the track.


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Are these required when you go low? Just curious as to why they would be needed.
Not required, no, but the problem with our front suspension (MacPhearson strut) is that the camber is not adjustable beyond fractions of a degree (aka nothing more than necessary to keep it within spec). This is as opposed to a multi-link suspension, for example, where the camber is adjustable. Behind good tires, increasing camber is the best way to improve grip with our cars.
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I have the RS1 and JRZ actually recommends the Ground Control plates. I have them in my car and they're beautiful. The extra camber is a great handling asset on the track.



Not required, no, but the problem with our front suspension (MacPhearson strut) is that the camber is not adjustable beyond fractions of a degree (aka nothing more than necessary to keep it within spec). This is as opposed to a multi-link suspension, for example, where the camber is adjustable. Behind good tires, increasing camber is the best way to improve grip with our cars.
The Ground Control plates look great. However, I am still looking for someone who can do a fair comparison between the few popular plates so I can make a smart decision. Anyone?
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The Ground Control plates look great. However, I am still looking for someone who can do a fair comparison between the few popular plates so I can make a smart decision. Anyone?
g/l with that. Here, you'll probably just get vendor feedback on whatever they sell. Might want to post in the track forum. No experience here, but from extensive reading, GC are quieter and last longer than Vorschlag.
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g/l with that. Here, you'll probably just get vendor feedback on whatever they sell. Might want to post in the track forum. No experience here, but from extensive reading, GC are quieter and last longer than Vorschlag.
You are partially right. Both GC and Vorshlag are very helpful and explain their design philosophies, it's still hard to make a decision even after talking to both of them.

One of my buddies has an E46 M3(different chassis so maybe different plates?) running Moton CS's with Vorshlag plates for years without any noise. He also had GC back in the E36 days with good results so he is no help!
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Most of the higher end camber plates are going to give you good results. When looking for camber plates consider a few dynamics...


1) The hole in the top of the strut tower is relatively small and can limit movement because of the top of the strut shaft (compared to E46 & E36)
2) The addition of CASTER is far better than CAMBER because caster angle adds negative camber as the wheel is turned
3) The lower arms (suspension components) can be upgraded to M3 in order to gain more negative camber
4) Most importantly look at the stack height of the camber plate to see how tall it is compared to the OEM Strut mount. It should be considerably shorter in order to gain the most compression travel out of the suspension.
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