Dyno Results 328xi (Stock vs Modified) - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

DESI4life10 · 08-08-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rampage9

Nice work, and results!

I'm just outside of my warranty now, so I'm looking into sourcing a 3-stage manifold and the AA swap. I'll have to have a chat with you on who the AA rep is that you worked with (I'm also in GTA).

Thank bro. Goodluck with the search

Yep, flag me down at a meet and I can help you out.

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Originally Posted by accel

Interesting. This visualizes the dip reported when 3 stage with no software is installed.

Yep. That dip can be noticed depending on how you are on the throttle.

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Originally Posted by BoogeyMan'sBMW

Congrats bro, lookin good!

Where u from desi bhaii

Thanks bud. I am canadian born, but family from Punjab

DESI4life10 · 08-08-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MonsterM

How bad is the linear power delivery affected by the AA tune and 3 stage manifold in day to day driving?

You won't have any issue with this. The power still feels very linear and refined for DD. You just adjust your throttle position and the car will have no problem as a DD. Even if you WOT, it isn't jerky at all and very smooth. Just feels like "turbos" have kicked in

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Originally Posted by mapleridge

Desi any plans for primary and secondary delete? That should be 15-25 HP.

TBH, I don't have plans for modding this car anymore. I had a nudget on what I would be willing to put in this car and I have reached it. If I do decide to do it, I will have to sell a mod off my car

I also use this car as a DD and am worried about the drone, excess noise that will be created on top on my PE when going catless. The additional power gained from it is very tempting, but not sure if it is right for me.

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Originally Posted by DSC_OFF

Nice to see proper dyno showing true deltas. Not bad for auto + xi.

Thanks bro. Proper dynos for sure is the key. Even more, a baseline dyno is extremely important. The only way to see how a mod works on a car is to see how that car acted before the mod.
Just wanted to show the community what these cars truly are capable off and not just go by assumptions etc.

paladin0088 · 08-08-2012, 01:46 PM

Happen to notice you are in Canada too. Where did you find your parts for manifold conversion? The original parts are quite expensive.

dkha01 · 08-08-2012, 03:18 PM

hey buddy congrats on the awesome numbers

DESI4life10 · 08-08-2012, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by paladin0088

Happen to notice you are in Canada too. Where did you find your parts for manifold conversion? The original parts are quite expensive.

Bought them used from a auto shop in the states. New parts definately are expensive.

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Originally Posted by dkha01

hey buddy congrats on the awesome numbers

Thanks bud.

how you been?

Andrew@ActiveAutowerke · 08-08-2012, 04:28 PM

Why does it end before 7000 rpm?

DUI Elite · 08-08-2012, 05:27 PM

Kind of curious what ONLY the stage 2 tune can do to a 325i with charcoal filter delete, K&N drop in, and scoops.

Finally glad to see actual dynos.

DESI4life10 · 08-08-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

Why does it end before 7000 rpm?

Not sure why, but I doubt it would make a difference for us NA cars.

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Originally Posted by DUI Elite

Kind of curious what ONLY the stage 2 tune can do to a 325i with charcoal filter delete, K&N drop in, and scoops.

Finally glad to see actual dynos.

It would be pretty good but I don't think you will get the same torque.

Volasko · 08-08-2012, 05:46 PM

Dude your AWD puts down the same power as my RWD and our mods are the same minus the PI........ I hope that is just the difference between the different dynos

See:http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=Volasko

DUI Elite · 08-08-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DESI4life10

Not sure why, but I doubt it would make a difference for us NA cars.

It would be pretty good but I don't think you will get the same torque.

Honestly, I just want 210 rwhp lol

how plausible do you think it would be with just the tune / intake mod i have.

Onurleft · 08-08-2012, 06:25 PM

Nice numbers. Good to see the AA tune gave you an extra 15ft/lbs and lots more torque everywhere. Bet it drives much better and feels great

Andrew@ActiveAutowerke · 08-09-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by m3alabama

I don't get why even with the 3 stage and the tune, no aftermarket tuner was ever able to replicate the stock 330i (255hp version) horsepower delivery curve which ran strong to 6750 where it peaked power and would pull strong to redline at 7k. STock 328 engines with the 230 hp always ran out of steam after 6200 which made sense with the single stage manifold but wondering why AA or anyone else was unable to get more of the top end power that the OEM n52 255hp model does from the factory.

Really goes to show you the expertise of bmw and their skill in extracting power

To answer this question: The 328 uses a little different ecu than the 325/330. We can definitely exceed the 330's 255 bhp on a 325 with 3 stage.

This vehicle in question made a max of 260 bhp after mods.

On our in house dyno our 328 showed no hp drop up to 7000 rpm. I think the dyno operator may have set the dynos max rpm to around 6500 or so.

dkha01 · 08-09-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DESI4life10

Bought them used from a auto shop in the states. New parts definately are expensive.

Thanks bud.

how you been?

im good, we gotta test the difference between our cars lol

Tam@SupremePower · 08-09-2012, 07:26 PM

DESI4life10 · 08-13-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Volasko

Dude your AWD puts down the same power as my RWD and our mods are the same minus the PI........ I hope that is just the difference between the different dynos

See:http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=Volasko

This dyno I go to is not a high read dyno,and reads a bit lower. I say we test it out and see :-) What you think ?

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Originally Posted by DUI Elite

Honestly, I just want 210 rwhp lol

how plausible do you think it would be with just the tune / intake mod i have.

Probably around 200 with just an intake and tune is what you can get.

DESI4life10 · 08-13-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Onurleft

Nice numbers. Good to see the AA tune gave you an extra 15ft/lbs and lots more torque everywhere. Bet it drives much better and feels great

Thanks. Yep totally different car now.

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Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

To answer this question: The 328 uses a little different ecu than the 325/330. We can definitely exceed the 330's 255 bhp on a 325 with 3 stage.

This vehicle in question made a max of 260 bhp after mods.

On our in house dyno our 328 showed no hp drop up to 7000 rpm. I think the dyno operator may have set the dynos max rpm to around 6500 or so.

I'll find out about this and see. He may have left off the throttle around that time as well.

DESI4life10 · 08-13-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dkha01

im good, we gotta test the difference between our cars lol

You got it. Let me know when you are ready

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Originally Posted by Tam@SupremePower

Thanks

Andrew@ActiveAutowerke · 08-13-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DESI4life10

Thanks. Yep totally different car now.

I'll find out about this and see. He may have left off the throttle around that time as well.

Yeah find out I bet you could make a couple more hp up top.

The dyno temps between the first runs you did compared to the later ones like you stated in the first post make a pretty large difference I wouldn't be surprised if you made 5-10 more in the same climate.

You have one strong n52 congrats

shoenlace · 08-14-2012, 03:32 AM

I've heard the newer 328 with n51 engine comes with 3 stage manifold installed, so the question is will i get the same result with just a PE, PI, and AA tune?

andrey_gta · 08-14-2012, 09:58 AM

Really like how AA smoothed out that DISA dip.

DESI4life10, I found a DISA that been salvaged off a flood damaged 330i. Should I risk it? How did you verify that the DISA actuators worked??

The price is competitive and in Canada, no border fees

andrey_gta · 08-14-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shoenlace

I've heard the newer 328 with n51 engine comes with 3 stage manifold installed, so the question is will i get the same result with just a PE, PI, and AA tune?

I think the AA tune results will be similar with the DISA smoothing and slight increase, the HP numbers will be different since n51 has different compression.

I would not worry about exhaust and intake as much.
K&N and charcoal delete is popular for intake modding

To get anywhere with exhaust you have to cut out cat converters: headers or secondary cat delete

DUI Elite · 08-14-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DESI4life10

This dyno I go to is not a high read dyno,and reads a bit lower. I say we test it out and see :-) What you think ?

Probably around 200 with just an intake and tune is what you can get.

Oh okay. Breaking 200 is cool too. Lol

I need to jump on the 20% off sale theyre doing

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08-08-2012, 01:46 PM	#25
paladin0088 New Member Drives: 2011 328i xDrive E90 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 15 iTrader: (0)	Happen to notice you are in Canada too. Where did you find your parts for manifold conversion? The original parts are quite expensive.

08-08-2012, 03:18 PM	#26
dkha01 Private Drives: e92 328 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: toronto Posts: 70 iTrader: (2)	hey buddy congrats on the awesome numbers

08-08-2012, 05:27 PM	#29
DUI Elite ///M at Heart Drives: 2006 SGM E90 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,303 iTrader: (2)	Kind of curious what ONLY the stage 2 tune can do to a 325i with charcoal filter delete, K&N drop in, and scoops. Finally glad to see actual dynos.

08-08-2012, 05:46 PM	#31
Volasko Captain Drives: 2006 E90 330i BSM 6MT ZSP Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 786 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 BMW E90 330i [3.92]	Dude your AWD puts down the same power as my RWD and our mods are the same minus the PI........ I hope that is just the difference between the different dynos See:http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...hlight=Volasko

08-14-2012, 03:32 AM	#41
shoenlace Private Drives: 2011 BMW 328xi Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: San Francisco Posts: 65 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2011 328xi [0.00]	I've heard the newer 328 with n51 engine comes with 3 stage manifold installed, so the question is will i get the same result with just a PE, PI, and AA tune?