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DIY: Auto Trans Fluid and Filter Change for 328i/328xi
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#1
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Chriztofor
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08-17-2011, 09:12 PM
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Nice write-up
Great write-up!
![]() ![]() Some comments: 1) Did you at least try to remove the "old" o-ring? I wonder if you could have removed it with a needle nose pliers. On my e46, I removed the o-ring by using a screwdriver and pressing UP on one side of the ring. The ring then went into a 90 degree position where I removed it with my fingers. 2) When you topped off the oil while the car was running, was the transmission warm? I am surprised that you didn't need to check for temperature. When I did my trans fluid change (ZF Trans.), I didn't check the temp, but the oil was very warm (slightly hot) when I topped it off. 3) Personally, I know you didn't need to, but I would have used the sealant. I recommend you check for leaks in about a month, just to be on the safe side. (This is where a dipstick would be useful, damn BMW engineering.) 4) I can't wait for the Blackstone results. I wish I did that with mine. 5) Lift (Stall Hydraulic Lift- $5.50) Lucky son of a B&^%$.Again, great job!!!! We need more people like you on this forum!!!! ![]() |
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#2
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iflyjetzzz
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08-18-2011, 05:58 AM
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1) I tried to get the old O ring out and played with it for a few minutes. But I didn't use any tools because it was in an awkward spot - hard to tell from the photo but it's pretty far up there and I didn't want to take a chance of damaging anything in the transmission.
2) Yes, I topped off the transmission while it was warm. When I filled the transmission without the car running, it filled pretty quickly - maybe 1 1/2 quarts. Once I turned on the engine, that's when most of the transmission fluid was filled. During that time, the transmission heated up. I had access to electronic professional shop manuals (reference bolt tightening sequence) at the auto hobby shop and I specifically looked for anything stating a temperature. It never said anything. 3) I had the sealant that you recommended with me but never ended up using it because when I pulled off the pan, the old gasket came off with no resistance; it was obvious that no sealant was used. Yes, I'll be checking it again for leaks in a while. I will also have my indy check the trans fluid level and leaks on the 60K service. 4) I mailed the fluid to Blackstone yesterday. I will post results as soon as I get them so that others can determine if they want to change their fluid. I will admit that although the fluid was pretty dark, the fluid still looked red and not black. You can see the fluid color in some of the photos ... I've seen MUCH worse looking ATF in my wife's Acura when I drained her ATF at a similar mileage. 5) Yeah, $5.50/hr can't be beat. Plus access to all of the tools; I got my tools stolen a couple of years ago and replaced them with a fairly cheap toolset because of access to military auto hobby shops. I love being able to use the facilities. Again, thanks for your and Entity's help on this forum. |
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#3
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iflyjetzzz
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08-26-2011, 01:28 AM
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Here's the Blackstone report.
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Last edited by iflyjetzzz; 08-26-2011 at 02:23 AM.
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#4
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Chriztofor
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08-26-2011, 01:53 AM
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So it appears that they recommend that the trans oil gets changed every 30k and you made the right decision by changing the oil becuase at the very least you removed the metals from the break-in period. I would love to see the analysis on 80-100k original fill oil.
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#5
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hnekcivic
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09-14-2011, 05:32 PM
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hello i have a 2007 328xi with 73k miles, planning on change the ATF real soon, just wondering how your car drive after fluid changed ? also how hard to get the filter off that car ? good DIY btw
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#7
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mike3000fl
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09-17-2011, 10:47 AM
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#8
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Dr Zoidberg
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10-01-2011, 07:31 PM
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I am in the middle of changing my fluid and filter.. A trick to pull that "o-ring". Its not really an o-ring, its a metal seal ,
In a couple spots, I just took the end of a screwdriver and pried it into the center of the hole. then lightly tap the metal seal into its self with the screw driver and hammer, this began to rotate the seal. At this point you can just grab it and pull it out. To install , I just found a socket that had the same diameter as the seal. I wet it with fluid and started it by hand , then tapped it in with the socket. Now Im waiting for my girlfriend to get home so she can run the car while I fill the fluid. |
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#9
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be-em-veh-808
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02-12-2012, 02:22 AM
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Does the bump and the smaller hole have a bolt through it? If so, did you just "punch the bolt through the bump in the gasket?
Thanks! "Image 13 shows the pan gasket and pan. Note the raised bump on the corner; it fits in the smaller hole on the pan. There are two of these on the pan and gasket. It's impossible to put the gasket in improperly." |
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#10
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hillhucker
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02-28-2012, 10:57 PM
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#15
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Mesa
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10-22-2012, 10:10 PM
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Did you apply loctite when replacing the bolts? I see that the bentley manual recommends that, but didnt know this until after I replaced them. Wondering if anyone had any issues with the bolts backing out.
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#16
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Chuck W.
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11-02-2012, 02:48 PM
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Many thanks to iflyjetzzz for this write up. I just changed the transmission fluid on my daughter's 2007 328I and would never have attempted it without your efforts. Her car has 97460 miles on it and this is the first time it has been changed. The oil was much darker than the oil in iflyjetzzz' post. I am guessing it is because it has twice the miles on it. I have already sent a sample to Blackstone and will post the results when they come. It'll be interesting to compare the two.
I used 4.5 quarts. I measured the amount that I removed and replaced it with a like amount. During the last step of adding fluid while the engine was on I felt that I could have added more but stopped once I had matched the amount removed. |
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#18
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sw0ggd0gg
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02-15-2013, 10:43 PM
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Wrong Fill point
You actually filled it in the wrong plug area. It take about 8 quarts. The plug is towards the passenger side and it faces upwards. You need to fill there. Did three of them today on a fleet. Its on the side of the trans above the shielding.
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#21
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Chuck W.
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02-16-2013, 09:51 PM
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Well, I am far from an expert. But, it doesn't sound right that I would drain only 4.5 quarts of transmission fluid and add 12 quarts. I don't believe transmission fluid burns up like engine oil. Perhaps I was unable to get all of the fluid out by just draining and dropping the pan.
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