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      08-15-2012, 07:38 PM   #1
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Lightbulb BMW 335i (N54) turbo warranty extended for wastegate issues to 8yrs/82k miles

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So I took my 2009 335i in for maintenance at Shelly Bmw and my SA informed me with a SIB printout [SI B01 02 12 PDF download] showing that the turbos warranty have been extended to a whopping 8 years and 82,000 miles (for problems caused by wastegate).

This is on top of the HPFP 10/120k warranty. I guess Im going to skip that extended warranty purchase!! The only other critical part are the injectors but those are cheap now. $120 each and its not like all six would simultaneously fail.

Models Covered:
  • E60, E61 (MY 2008, 2009, 2010): 535i including xDrive E71 (MY 2008, 2009, 2010): X6 xDrive35i
  • E82, E88 (MY 2008, 2009, 2010): 135i
  • E89 (MY 2009, 2010): E89 – Z4 sDrive35i
  • E90, E92, E93 (MY 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010): 335i including xDrive


Edit: I believe BMW AG saw this lawsuit coming miles away and prepared themselves. I think how they prepared themselves was very smart. First, introduced the N55 engine immediately into the 2011 line-ups in the existing E90 models. Secondly, for those wishing to have N54, since there was technically still a prized market for it, introduced a secondary model called 335iS. These two changes completely eliminated any legal liabilities with regards to turbos, wastegates, or injector issues since the majority of the class action lawsuit was being represented by N54 owners in the 2007-2010 years.

Full SIB:

MODEL
E60, E61 (MY 2008, 2009, 2010): 535i including xDrive
E71 (MY 2008, 2009, 2010): X6 xDrive35i
E82, E88 (MY 2008, 2009, 2010): 135i
E89 (MY 2009, 2010): E89 – Z4 sDrive35i
E90, E92, E93 (MY 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010): 335i including xDrive

INFORMATION

All issues relating to the last-minute appeal have been resolved and the new effective date of the settlement is July 11, 2012. The court-approved settlement provides the following relief to the Settlement Class Members’ vehicles listed above.

SITUATION

BMW NA has agreed to extend, to a total of 8 years or 82,000 miles, whichever comes first, the emissions warranties covering the Settlement Class Members’ vehicles for any failure of a turbocharger caused by a defect in a turbocharger wastegate. The terms of the original New Vehicle/SAV Limited Warranty and applicable emissions warranty still apply. BMW NA will not provide warranty coverage to any Settlement Class Member’s vehicle containing modifications or alterations to the turbocharger or its wastegates (software, hardware or otherwise), or evidencing other conditions not normally covered under the original New Vehicle/SAV Limited Warranty or applicable emissions warranty.

Modifications excluded from warranty coverage include any aftermarket parts that affect the turbocharger system, or if there are other conditions that would normally exclude it from warranty coverage.

WARRANTY INFORMATION

The emissions warranty for the turbocharger wastegates has been extended to 8 years or 82,000 miles, whichever one occurs first, for a failure of a turbocharger caused by a defect in a turbocharger wastegate that does not otherwise fall within exclusion to coverage under the warranty. Any applicable TeileClearing or Diagcode requirements still apply.

The turbocharger wastegates’ 8 year/82,000 miles warranty supersedes any applicable coverage provided under the BMW Certified Pre-Owned program or any BMW Group Vehicle Service Contract in effect. This component’s warranty extension applies to the above-listed models only. It is applicable to eligible vehicles which are registered and operated in all 50 states. The existing warranty coverage for all other parts has not changed.

BMW is informing all eligible Settlement Class Members of their extended turbocharger wastegates warranty.



For those of you who havent seen the news SIB, here it is: dated July 2012.
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      08-15-2012, 07:53 PM   #2
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So are they replacing them with the same components?
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      08-15-2012, 10:15 PM   #3
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I was just about to buy a warranty...I guess this solved the problem I'm having with the wastegate rattle/turbo whine ...I'm calling my dealer tomorrow
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      08-15-2012, 10:20 PM   #4
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It would almost be worth pulling the catless DPs off and reinstalling the stock IC if I got new turbos out of it.
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      08-15-2012, 10:24 PM   #5
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It would almost be worth pulling the catless DPs off and reinstalling the stock IC if I got new turbos out of it.
Exactly my thought! My wastegate rattle is really bothering me much that I haven't been driving my car for about 2 weeks or so.
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      08-15-2012, 10:35 PM   #7
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I'm at 74k I wonder if they will replace my turbos even if I dont have that much rattle! It's probably worth a shot dont you think? Or do the turbos have to fail before they will replace them?
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I'm at 74k I wonder if they will replace my turbos even if I dont have that much rattle! It's probably worth a shot dont you think? Or do the turbos have to fail before they will replace them?
I think as long as you can hear the rattle (as long as its not considered normal), they'll replace them.
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I'm calling up my SA Tomorrow and seeing if I could get this done ASAP!
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I think as long as you can hear the rattle (as long as its not considered normal), they'll replace them.
My understanding is that they will adjust the WGs if they can first and only replace the turbos if an adjustment doesn't resolve the problem.
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My car is going in next week...hoping for new turbos!
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This is great news, I dont have any rattle but if i do, this gives me piece of mind.

For those who are taking their cars in, keep us posted!
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I had the wastegate issues and got new turbos, but the new turbos were even louder. Eventually i found a good indy performance shop that were able to fix the wastegate rattle for me. TyrolSport in NY
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I think as long as you can hear the rattle (as long as its not considered normal), they'll replace them.
specifics from the SIB:

A slight rattle noise is considered normal operation of the mechanical wastegate valve and is not a failure of the part. No repair should be attempted for this type of rattling complaint.

If the noise is described as a clanking noise occurring up to six or seven times in a row during adeceleration from approximately 3,500 RPM, or during a heavy application of the accelerator without a drive gear being engaged, then continue with the procedures described in this document.
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I brang mines in today. Lets see what happens.
Keep you posted.
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I had the wastegate issues and got new turbos, but the new turbos were even louder. Eventually i found a good indy performance shop that were able to fix the wastegate rattle for me. TyrolSport in NY
I was going there for years to have work done when I had my built GTI. Mike is a standup guy and knows his sh!t. I'd sooner have them do work before any dealer in the area (out of warranty of course).
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It would almost be worth pulling the catless DPs off and reinstalling the stock IC if I got new turbos out of it.
would IC have to come off?
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I have a slight rattle. My car is out of warranty, and last time I wanted to bring it in for a recall item, I was told I would have to pay $150 if they deemed everything ok. I hope my rattle gets a little worse so I can go in because I don't want to pay that fee if they refuse to fix it.
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I was just about to buy a warranty...I guess this solved the problem I'm having with the wastegate rattle/turbo whine ...I'm calling my dealer tomorrow
I still wouldn't skimp on the extended warranty/ There are quite a bit more that fall apart on these cars. I had a water pump failure, 1 visit I had all the following replaced (Gasket ring, collar Screw, bearing ledge, intake Inlet camshaft, gasket ring, decoupling element), transmission issues, ecu replacement.. and much much more!
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specifics from the SIB:

A slight rattle noise is considered normal operation of the mechanical wastegate valve and is not a failure of the part. No repair should be attempted for this type of rattling complaint.

If the noise is described as a clanking noise occurring up to six or seven times in a row during adeceleration from approximately 3,500 RPM, or during a heavy application of the accelerator without a drive gear being engaged, then continue with the procedures described in this document.
That's why I said "as long as its not considered normal"

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would IC have to come off?
It's best to take every single mod off...

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I still wouldn't skimp on the extended warranty/ There are quite a bit more that fall apart on these cars. I had a water pump failure, 1 visit I had all the following replaced (Gasket ring, collar Screw, bearing ledge, intake Inlet camshaft, gasket ring, decoupling element), transmission issues, ecu replacement.. and much much more!
I was only worried about the turbos. The others, I'm not worried about
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That's why I said "as long as its not considered normal"



It's best to take every single mod off...



I was only worried about the turbos. The others, I'm not worried about
Before, what was considered "normal" was purely subjective. Just pointing out that there is now criteria to determine what is normal and what isn't.
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