Lemon & Manufacturer Buyback...would you? - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

QC335 · 09-02-2012, 10:44 AM

I bought one for dirt cheap and had no problem selling again. Just expect to take 4-5k off the price you get when it's time to sell.

damascus · 09-02-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by QC335

I bought one for dirt cheap and had no problem selling again. Just expect to take 4-5k off the price you get when it's time to sell.

i'm with you and would pull the trigger if the buy-back title cars were priced right. the car above is at an asking price of almost $40,000. there are a ton of cars with similar mileage, options, and condition with clear titles between $32k and $35k. i wonder what these dealers are paying for the California buy-back cars. They are seeking huge profits.

QC335 · 09-02-2012, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by damascus

i'm with you and would pull the trigger if the buy-back title cars were priced right. the car above is at an asking price of almost $40,000. there are a ton of cars with similar mileage, options, and condition with clear titles between $32k and $35k. i wonder what these dealers are paying for the California buy-back cars. They are seeking huge profits.

They gave me $19,000 for it.

http://www.donohooauto.com/2007-BMW-...AL/vd/10971658

I was in and out in an hour.

damascus · 09-02-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by QC335

They gave me $19,000 for it.

http://www.donohooauto.com/2007-BMW-...AL/vd/10971658

I was in and out in an hour.

that's good information. thanks. i came across Donohoo while searching. they seem to almost specialize in BMW factory buy-backs...

bmwpride335i · 09-02-2012, 12:43 PM

price should be lowered, no matter how fair the condition is. it still has buyback on the title and therefore deserves 4-5k discount. ask for it and walk away if they dont give it to you. they will come back to you and ask you to come back

BOBKUR · 09-02-2012, 12:50 PM

Prices are way to high, ask yourself why BMW is sending cars from Calif. out of state. If sold in Calif. people would not pay the prices that BMW whats for a lemoned car.

QC335 · 09-02-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BOBKUR

Prices are way to high, ask yourself why BMW is sending cars from Calif. out of state. If sold in Calif. people would not pay the prices that BMW whats for a lemoned car.

What would you expect to pay for the car linked above? Just out of curiosity.

damascus · 09-02-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BOBKUR

Prices are way to high, ask yourself why BMW is sending cars from Calif. out of state. If sold in Calif. people would not pay the prices that BMW whats for a lemoned car.

it seems to me that if the buy-back (lemon title) can be directly linked to a HPFP recall - then the value of the car should not take a huge hit. it's not even remotely the same a so many other cars that may be titled with 'flood, arson, repairable rebuild, total loss, electrical gremlin' type issues.

what does the title actually list as the problem? again, if spelled out HPFP, i'd buy it with confidence.

BOBKUR · 09-02-2012, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by damascus

it seems to me that if the buy-back (lemon title) can be directly linked to a HPFP recall - then the value of the car should not take a huge hit. it's not even remotely the same a so many other cars that may be titled with 'flood, arson, repairable rebuild, total loss, electrical gremlin' type issues.

what does the title actually list as the problem? again, if spelled out HPFP, i'd buy it with confidence.

They do not spell out the reason for lemon.

BOBKUR · 09-02-2012, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by QC335

What would you expect to pay for the car linked above? Just out of curiosity.

No more than 16,000. If you need to sell it you are going to lose, since the title is salvage, and no warranty.

QC335 · 09-02-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BOBKUR

No more than 16,000. If you need to sell it you are going to lose, since the title is salvage, and no warranty.

The money you save buying the salvage is lost again once you resell it. As said above, usually around 4-5 thousand dollars off of the kbb value.

http://www.kbb.com/bmw/3-series/2007...icetype=retail

$28,000 kbb retail value of a similarly equipped 335i coupe with a clean title. So you are saying that you would offer them $16k?

335REGULATION · 09-02-2012, 10:14 PM

HPFP not an issue at all but should get it for a lot less

Tomahawk · 09-02-2012, 11:35 PM

The 4k discount is already in the sale price. I have also lurked Donohoo for months. Show me same condtion cars without the buyback title (not salvage) for this kind of money. And most of their (Donohoo) vehicles are CPO's with plenty of warranty left.

For the member who has experience with Donohoo, what would say about them? They had a gorgeous M sport for a few weeks ago but I didnt pull trigger.

Bimmerlover76 · 09-02-2012, 11:41 PM

I agree with most here who say "buy." My 2009
335i e92 was a CA lemon (HPFP). Got an inspection and paid $29,500 for it. Had ~9,000 miles on it.

Sport, premium, OEM spoiler, blue water metallic with grey interior.

Just get an inspection and make sure the 120,000 mi./10 yr. warranty is IN WRITING.

One more thing. I was well taken care of by Mark Schneider at Perillo BMW in Chicago. Very professional and considerate. Grade A.

tony3series · 12-26-2012, 05:08 PM

I've been looking at lemon/buybacks too. Considering some of the prices and knowing that I'd be willing to deal with replacing HPFP I might go for it. By now I would think the 2007's would have had HPFP issues fixed.

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Originally Posted by QC335

They gave me $19,000 for it.

http://www.donohooauto.com/2007-BMW-...AL/vd/10971658

I was in and out in an hour.

I've also been lurking/looking at Donohoo.

QC335 is this your car that you traded in? I was seriously considering selling my car & going to take a look at this exact car. They gave you $19,000 for it? Now it looks like they are trying to sell for $19,000 to get rid of it. Maybe it has been on the lot for too long? Have any issues with the car before you traded it in?

BOBKUR · 12-26-2012, 06:48 PM

Overpriced for a LEMON title, i would steer clear.

ek99civic · 01-06-2013, 02:24 AM

Damn looks like i got a hell of a deal. Paid 27500 for my 08 335i sedan w/ 20k miles. Sport, premium package. Clear title. I would definitely not pay that much for it. Even if you plan to keep it for a while, its going to be sold some day and the price you get will reflect the buyback.

nukezero · 01-06-2013, 04:50 AM

HPFP is a thing of the past. Get service records and find out all details of what was fixed on the car.

Generally speaking, the 09's are fairly reliable, even more than 07/08. A lot of the parts on the '09s are on their 3rd or 4th revisions. You can look this up on realOEMparts.com.

I have a 09 myself and it has been fairly reliable. The HPFP was replaced voluntarily and I didn't have any problems with the old HPFP or the new HPFP.

ek99civic · 01-17-2013, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nukezero

HPFP is a thing of the past. Get service records and find out all details of what was fixed on the car.

Generally speaking, the 09's are fairly reliable, even more than 07/08. A lot of the parts on the '09s are on their 3rd or 4th revisions. You can look this up on realOEMparts.com.

I have a 09 myself and it has been fairly reliable. The HPFP was replaced voluntarily and I didn't have any problems with the old HPFP or the new HPFP.

Just got my HPFP replaced for the second or third time, cant remember, about 3 wks ago.

sathoro · 01-17-2013, 02:58 PM

Bought my car from the same dealership 10 months ago. Haven't had any major issues, just had to replace some of the injectors (under warranty, they were leaking or something) last month, that is pretty much it. Try to get price down as much as possible and go for it. I didn't get the price down nearly as much as I probably could have but I was really, really eager to buy esp since finding a black e90 m-sport was not easy.

09-02-2012, 10:44 AM	#23
QC335 Lieutenant Drives: C-17 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 435 iTrader: (0)	I bought one for dirt cheap and had no problem selling again. Just expect to take 4-5k off the price you get when it's time to sell. __________________

09-02-2012, 10:14 PM	#34
335REGULATION Second Lieutenant Drives: 2009 E90 LCI M-Package 6spd Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 235 iTrader: (0)	HPFP not an issue at all but should get it for a lot less __________________ 2009 LCI E90/N54/Space Gray/M-Package/Sport Premium Package/6MT w BMW Performance Shifter/Black Dakota Leather/Wood Trim/Navigation/PDC/Comfort Access/

01-06-2013, 04:50 AM	#40
nukezero Major Drives: '09 335I Cpe Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sunny Socal Posts: 1,101 iTrader: (2)	HPFP is a thing of the past. Get service records and find out all details of what was fixed on the car. Generally speaking, the 09's are fairly reliable, even more than 07/08. A lot of the parts on the '09s are on their 3rd or 4th revisions. You can look this up on realOEMparts.com. I have a 09 myself and it has been fairly reliable. The HPFP was replaced voluntarily and I didn't have any problems with the old HPFP or the new HPFP. __________________ 2009 335i 6MT - M-Sport - Cobb AP Tune

01-17-2013, 02:58 PM	#42
sathoro Second Lieutenant Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 214 iTrader: (0)	Bought my car from the same dealership 10 months ago. Haven't had any major issues, just had to replace some of the injectors (under warranty, they were leaking or something) last month, that is pretty much it. Try to get price down as much as possible and go for it. I didn't get the price down nearly as much as I probably could have but I was really, really eager to buy esp since finding a black e90 m-sport was not easy. __________________ '10 E90 335i \| Black Sapphire Metallic \| Black Dakota Leather \| M Sport \| Premium \| Cold Weather CF Performance Spoiler \| Black Matte CF Wrapped Trim \| Black Grilles \| Black Side Reflectors \| 35% Tint \| Golf Tee Mod

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09-02-2012, 12:43 PM	#27
bmwpride335i Major Drives: 07 SUPERCHARGED 680HP VETTE Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,344 iTrader: (1)	price should be lowered, no matter how fair the condition is. it still has buyback on the title and therefore deserves 4-5k discount. ask for it and walk away if they dont give it to you. they will come back to you and ask you to come back

09-02-2012, 12:50 PM	#28
BOBKUR Major Drives: 2008 E 90 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: CALIFORNIA Posts: 1,205 iTrader: (2)	Prices are way to high, ask yourself why BMW is sending cars from Calif. out of state. If sold in Calif. people would not pay the prices that BMW whats for a lemoned car.

09-02-2012, 11:35 PM	#35
Tomahawk Registered Drives: not yet Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pensacola Posts: 2 iTrader: (0)	The 4k discount is already in the sale price. I have also lurked Donohoo for months. Show me same condtion cars without the buyback title (not salvage) for this kind of money. And most of their (Donohoo) vehicles are CPO's with plenty of warranty left. For the member who has experience with Donohoo, what would say about them? They had a gorgeous M sport for a few weeks ago but I didnt pull trigger.

09-02-2012, 11:41 PM	#36
Bimmerlover76 Lieutenant Drives: 2009 335i Coupe Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 590 iTrader: (0)	I agree with most here who say "buy." My 2009 335i e92 was a CA lemon (HPFP). Got an inspection and paid $29,500 for it. Had ~9,000 miles on it. Sport, premium, OEM spoiler, blue water metallic with grey interior. Just get an inspection and make sure the 120,000 mi./10 yr. warranty is IN WRITING. One more thing. I was well taken care of by Mark Schneider at Perillo BMW in Chicago. Very professional and considerate. Grade A.

12-26-2012, 06:48 PM	#38
BOBKUR Major Drives: 2008 E 90 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: CALIFORNIA Posts: 1,205 iTrader: (2)	Overpriced for a LEMON title, i would steer clear.

01-06-2013, 02:24 AM	#39
ek99civic BMW Noob Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: AZ Posts: 73 iTrader: (0)	Damn looks like i got a hell of a deal. Paid 27500 for my 08 335i sedan w/ 20k miles. Sport, premium package. Clear title. I would definitely not pay that much for it. Even if you plan to keep it for a while, its going to be sold some day and the price you get will reflect the buyback.