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      09-01-2012, 01:33 AM   #1
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New Respect For RFTs

A once in a decade bolt in a tyre, rendering it unrepairable, didn't stop this BMW from driving to school, driving home and then driving to the local tyre place (when it was open and convenient).

Given that my BMW is the daily drive and stopping on the side of the road, let alone being rendered immobile, is a blow to the daily routine, the RFTs worked a treat. I am starting to imagine the benefits of having a flat at highway speeds and then being able to drive calmly out of trouble.

My tyres have a couple of years left (one has about four years left now) but I'm starting to think RFTs might be the sensible replacement tyre if not seeking track day performance.

Sensible tyres.
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      09-01-2012, 03:23 AM   #2
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HAHA - Mate I am part of the 'run flats are a waste of money family'

My mate got a nail in his X5.
Same story - He was able to drive it until the next day.
He was quite thrilled with his decision to keep the RFT's.
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I'm starting to think RFTs might be the sensible replacement tyre if not seeking track day performance.

Sensible tyres.
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A once in a decade bolt in a tyre, rendering it unrepairable, didn't stop this BMW from driving to school, driving home and then driving to the local tyre place (when it was open and convenient).

Given that my BMW is the daily drive and stopping on the side of the road, let alone being rendered immobile, is a blow to the daily routine, the RFTs worked a treat. I am starting to imagine the benefits of having a flat at highway speeds and then being able to drive calmly out of trouble.

My tyres have a couple of years left (one has about four years left now) but I'm starting to think RFTs might be the sensible replacement tyre if not seeking track day performance.

Sensible tyres.
Poor kids hahaha

But yeh, RFTs make sense for reasons like this (and high speed blow-outs etc..)

Most people however can't justify the $/Performance/Comfort trade off though. But that has been discussed many times before anyway.
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      09-01-2012, 06:43 AM   #5
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Geez.. BMW drivers who are scared to change a tyre at the side of a busy motorway just need some advice from Chopper.

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^^^^ gotta love Uncle Chop-Chop
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I use RFTs. Have a full RFT spare and a chopperjack, which gets tossed in the back when going away out of Sydney. At the end of the day lotsa places still don't carry them. Don't mind the ride at all. Just means you don't have to get out of the car, there and then, if your unlucky enough to get a flat around town in my mind.
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      09-02-2012, 03:51 AM   #8
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OK, OK... I'll harden the fuck up and replace my RFTs with more usable (and cheaper) conventional types.

PS I'll also buy one of those fancy aerosol puncture cans to avoid brake dust getting on my designer jeans when I get my next puncture more than 5km away from a BMW service centre.

Gee, RFTs aren't *that* bad or pricey these days.
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I can understand for some people who can't accept any inconvenience or those who normally buy Volvos and only care minimise any possible risks while on the roads. I used to think that enthusiasts choose a BMW for its mix of handing, road-holding and quality ride as a priority.

To me run-flat tyres defeat the purpose of buying a BMW. I chose to drive a BMW because I want the best motoring experience without any compromise. So that means the best tyre grip, and low un-sprung weight. Perhaps BMW are following changes in the market... IOW, people have gone soft!
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Tyre puncture warning came up yesterday, I checked air pressure of all 4 tyres last night but found nothing wrong, all 4 of them still came up just about right, around 35 psi. Would it be a faulty tyre pressure monitor? My son who drove the car reckons nothing unusual with either handling or noise. If I have a chance today, will pump up the tyres again and reset the warning. Hope for the best.
Anyone has any idea? Thanks.
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I used to think that enthusiasts choose a BMW for its mix of handing, road-holding and quality ride as a priority.

To me run-flat tyres defeat the purpose of buying a BMW.
Funny, I think the same of those who get their pure driving pleasure in an automatic.

Enough making fun of the RFTs already! Sure, they're stiffer but the BMW suspension is tuned for them so you're not losing as much driving pleasure as you may think.

I must admit though my old E46 with conventional tyres did handle better.
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Enough making fun of the RFTs already! Sure, they're stiffer but the BMW suspension is tuned for them so you're not losing as much driving pleasure as you may think.

Who gives a toss what people think, if your happy - that's all that matters... its your car after all.
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Funny, I think the same of those who get their pure driving pleasure in an automatic.

Enough making fun of the RFTs already! Sure, they're stiffer but the BMW suspension is tuned for them so you're not losing as much driving pleasure as you may think.

I must admit though my old E46 with conventional tyres did handle better.
nope nuthin wrong with RFT's.

Unless you like traction that is
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nope nuthin wrong with RFT's.

Unless you like traction that is
Unless RFTs have improved since I replaced mine a few years ago, I'll be staying with the NON RFTs thanks.

The stiff sidewalls of RFTs make the suspension unbearable over typical pothole filled Aussie roads ! Or am I missing something?
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nope nuthin wrong with RFT's.

Unless you like traction that is
like we have traction with normal tyres anyway
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Tyre puncture warning came up yesterday, I checked air pressure of all 4 tyres last night but found nothing wrong, all 4 of them still came up just about right, around 35 psi. Would it be a faulty tyre pressure monitor?
Check your wheels for any visible kerb damage and then re-initialise the Flat Tyre Monitor. If problem doesn't recur, then it could just be a quirk in the system. (Note that the Monitor needs to be re-initialised after adjusting tyre pressure).
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The stiff sidewalls of RFTs make the suspension unbearable over typical pothole filled Aussie roads ! Or am I missing something?
I absolutely agree with you.
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Check your wheels for any visible kerb damage and then re-initialise the Flat Tyre Monitor. If problem doesn't recur, then it could just be a quirk in the system. (Note that the Monitor needs to be re-initialised after adjusting tyre pressure).
Took the opportunity to replace the wheels/RF tyres with a set of used 19" wheels with non RFT bought recently, re-initialised the Flat Tyre Monitor and all is fine. Should have done it long time ago, the ride/handling is much much better, no more bouncing around. Even with 19" instead of 18" wheels/tyres, and cos you can still feel the poor quality of our roads but it is never harsh and much more comfortable.

Inspected the tyres and found a couple of small nails on one tyre, not sure if they are the reason of the puncture warning, again, tyre pressure seems OK.
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Ditch the runflats and you can be like this guy:

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Ditch the runflats and you can be like this guy:

reminds me of stu
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reminds me of stu
Does he have a driver
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Does he have a driver
No but he's changed wheels while wearing nice clothes haha.

Actually come to think of it... he could do with a driver too.
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